Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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It not a matter of being allowed or not. Catholic morality has shifted heavily towards birth control being okay, whereas it was not before.
 
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PhiriTalk:
Until last year, the death penalty was not against catholic teaching.
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Legitimate defense is still catholic teaching.
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The death penaly is not legitimate defence. It’s retribution. Remember I mentioned it earlier?
 
I know it’s an objective standard. This thread is about physical evolution. I don’t know how we got on the subject of the “evolution of morality”.
 
The bishops voted in favor of allowing birth control, the Pope essentially vetoed them. The vast majority of catholics think birth control is okay nonetheless.
 
I almost gave you a heart, but I just could not.

So I will help again:
A scientific theory is an attempt to find the nest explantion. Based on facts as we currently know them.

Do I get a heart? 😀
 
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Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true Philosophy
And to my original point, things are the way they are regardless of what anyone does or does not believe. Vaccines work and are safe regardless of what anti-vaxers say. Global anthropogenic climate change is occurring and causing harm to the global biosphere regardless of what climate deniers say. LGBT people don’t choose to be who they are regardless of what homophobes say. Melanin has no affect on intelligence or proclivity for crime no matter what the racists think. Evolution occurs rega…
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This was my original point.
 
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The bishops voted in favor of allowing birth control, the Pope essentially vetoed them. The vast majority of catholics think birth control is okay nonetheless.
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Whether they voted for it or not it was not changed. Popular thought and practice has nothing to do with magisterial teaching.
 
I never said otherwise. We’re talking about the evolving morality of catholics, not what are or are not the teachings at any particular moment in time.
 
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The death penaly is not legitimate defence. It’s retribution. Remember I mentioned it earlier?
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Then you do not understand it. I can help:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm
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The death penalty serves three purposes. Preventing the accused from comitting further crimes, as a deterrent to dissuage others from doing so and as retribution.

If the church considers killing someone only as a last resort as a defence of the population from further crimes, then the death penalty would still be acceptable.

The death penalty is now not acceptable so 2267 is no longer valid.
 
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The death penalty is now not acceptable so 2267 is no longer valid.
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Specifically, it defers to the potential to save the soul from damnation. In countries that have the financial and ability to incarcerate it is preferred. This maximizes the chance for the offender to achieve salvation. A quick death does not avail that opportunity. In countries without the means the death penalty is still an option if it is the only way to protect the rest of the population.

Now this Pope has been saying things about abolishing it entirely. I am not sure where this has gone.
 
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I never said otherwise. We’re talking about the evolving morality of catholics, not what are or are not the teachings at any particular moment in time.
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Your claim is that the faithful have the ability to rewrite the Commandments?
 
No. There is no commandment against birth control.

You can’t think the death penalty is okay and follow the commandment “thou shall not kill” simultaneously.

Church teachings come from the flavor of the day’s interpretation of God, not from God. If the Church can stop thinking the sun goes around the earth, then it can stop thinking brith control is bad.
 
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Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true Philosophy
Specifically, it defers to the potential to save the soul from damnation. In countries that have the financial and ability to incarcerate it is preferred. This maximizes the chance for the offender to achieve salvation. A quick death does not avail that opportunity. In countries without the means the death penalty is still an option if it is the only way to protect the rest of the population. Now this Pope has been saying things about abolishing it entirely. I am not sure where this has g…
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The death penalty is literally a horrible deterrent though. There’s nothing good about killing somebody.
 
I know that, but the commandment says “thou shall not kill” nonetheless. Are you aware of the 6th commandment?
 
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Church teachings come from the flavor of the day’s interpretation of God, not from God. If the Church can stop thinking the sun goes around the earth, then it can stop thinking brith control is bad.
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That is not the Catholic way. It is the Protestant way though.

Catholics depend on the three legged stool of Scripture, Tradition and Magisterium. Take away any one leg and the stool topples.
 
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