Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

[buffalo]

I know that, but the commandment says “thou shall not kill” nonetheless. Are you aware of the 6th commandment?

More properly it says “thou shall not murder”.

 

[PhiriTalk]

According to whom? “Thou shall not kill” seems pretty cut and dry to me.

 

[buffalo]

According to whom? “Thou shall not kill” seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Are you Catholic?

 

[PhiriTalk]

Yes. Are you?

 

[PhiriTalk]

Do you accept the fact of anthropogenic climate change?

 

[buffalo]

Yes. Are you?

Yes. So I am surprised by your post.

"With regards to the fifth commandment (verse thirteen), the more accurate way to render the original language text is, “You shall not murder” rather than “You shall not kill.” There is a Hebrew word for killing and there is a more specific word for murder, and it is the word for murder which appears in the commandment. "

http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=328147&language=en

 

[buffalo]

Do you accept the fact of anthropogenic climate change?

How is this relevant to this conversation?

 

[PhiriTalk]

Is it taboo in Catholicism to think that killing other people is wrong?

 

[PhiriTalk]

The Catholic Church accepts the fact of anthropogenic climate change. Someone who doesn’t accept this fact is going against Catholic teaching. Same with the teachings on vaccines and evolution.

 

[buffalo]

The Catholic Church accepts the fact of anthropogenic climate change. Someone who doesn’t accept this fact is going against Catholic teaching. Same with the teachings on vaccines and evolution.

Please provide magisterial documents for each claim.

 

[PhiriTalk]

Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true Philosophy

Please provide magisterial documents for each claim.

Climate Change: Laudato si' (24 May 2015) | Francis https://catholicclimatecovenant.org/teachings

Vaccines: https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03...ife-encourages-parents-to-vaccinate-children/

Evolution: SS Pius XII - Encyclica. Humani Generis [1950-08-12] Full Text at Documenta Catholica Omnia

Science and Catholicism are not in conflict with each other. Rejecting science is a rejection of God.

 

[PhiriTalk]

The RSV-CE literally says “thou shall not kill”. How am I supposed to read it otherwise?

Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true Philosophy

Yes. So I am surprised by your post. "With regards to the fifth commandment (verse thirteen), the more accurate way to render the original language text is, “You shall not murder” rather than “You shall not kill.” There is a Hebrew word for killing and there is a more specific word for murder, and it is the word for murder which appears in the commandment. " http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=328147&language=en

 

[buffalo]

The RSV-CE literally says “thou shall not kill”. How am I supposed to read it otherwise?

I gave you a source. Go back to the original Hebrew or check a concordance. Language rendering can sometimes be difficult.

 

[buffalo]

Climate Change: http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html https://catholicclimatecovenant.org/teachings

Vaccines: https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03...ife-encourages-parents-to-vaccinate-children/

Evolution: SS Pius XII - Encyclica. Humani Generis [1950-08-12] Full Text at Documenta Catholica Omnia

Science and Catholicism are not in conflict with each other. Rejecting science is a rejection of God.

Ok good.

Much of what the laudatio si I agree with. Catholic teaching has always been to be good stewards of God’s creation. The science on ocean levels and CO2 is uncertain. What is the optimum level of CO2 in the atmosphere and how do you know?

Vaccination - encouraging vaccination?

Evoluiton - Humani Generis - I suggest you read it in its entirety. We have hashed this one out on this thread. Do a search.

 

[buffalo]

A very good watch

The Magician’s Twin - CS Lewis​

A powerful must see video:

The Magician’s Twin: C.S. Lewis and the Case against Scientism

The Similarity Between Science and Magic

1. Science as religion
2. Science as credulity
3. Science as power

The Magician's Twin - CS Lewis

The Magician's Twin: C.S. Lewis and the Case against Scientism

idvolution.blogspot.com

 

[PhiriTalk]

If it’s “murder”, then why are Catholics against abortion, which, at least in the US, is not murder?

“Thou shall not kill” just makes so much more logical sense. Saying “murder” just means that there are exceptions and whoever writes the laws get to decide what those exceptions are.

For me “thou shall not kill” is cut and dry.

 

[PhiriTalk]

Are you against encouraging vaccinations?

 

[buffalo]

If it’s “murder”, then why are Catholics against abortion, which, at least in the US, is not murder?

We are speaking of divine law, not man made law. Abortion is the intentional murder of an unborn human being and not even debatable.

 

[buffalo]

Are you against encouraging vaccinations?

Yes. In many cases. Read Dr Mary’s Monkey to see how almost 100 million were vaccinated with the monkey virus and the US government sanctioned it. (and how they were trying to weaponize it) Many vaccines are using fetal cell lines which is against our faith.

 

[PhiriTalk]

Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true Philosophy

We are speaking of divine law, not man made law. Abortion is the intentional murder of an unborn human being and not even debatable.

Yeah, but in the United States, abortion is literally not murder. Divine law doesn’t apply in the US. Do Catholics in the US have to follow the laws of other countries or their own? What happened to “render unto Ceasar”?

It is “thou shall not kill”. No exceptions.