Will America become socialist now that Biden has basically won?

[Freddy]

whatistrue:

No one is saying that nothing should be investigated, but they are saying that there should be some evidence of wrongdoing to start one, not a claim that “it had to be fraud if I didn’t win”.

The dead rising from their graves to cast their vote seems a pretty reasonable cause to investigate.

Having more votes then voters is another good reason.

Perhaps the suspicious behavior at the polls in keeping observers so far away.
Or again, poll workers putting posters up on the windows to keep what they are doing from being seen.

Sworn testimony from poll workers indicating illegal activity.

I think the Magnificent Four (who have to be the worse group of legal eagles ever assembled) have ‘investigated’ and have put forward 32 claims to the courts. Count 'em…32! (some of which they had to admit weren’t fraud in any case). And the last count was one magnificent victory in one single case which had no impact on the election at all.

The other 31 claims? Thrown out of court. A complete waste of time. No dodgy software presented. No voting corpses dragged into court. No ‘suspicious behavior’ proved. No Cuban and Venezuelan commie anti Trump cabals discovered. No central Democratic organising committee uncovered. Absolutely zero evidence presented whatsoever.

If this group of clowns was an individual then they would be charged with being a vexatious litigator. Surely somebody in the Republican hierarchy with a sense of shame who might have at some point sworn an oath to serve the American public will call to dismantle this loathsome quartet and save the country from further embarrassment on the global stage.

 

[HarryStotle]

Embarrassment is better than the alternative being winked at by the Democrats.

You paint a brutal picture but the words are empty and only given a vague aura of plausibility by the fact that the entire mainstream media and big tech are echoing the same narrative.

The fact that they are should give ordinary people pause that they are about to be taken for a ride.

 

[Freddy]

Embarrassment is better…

No, the embarrassment is dragging down your position in the world. People are watching this happen and correlate it with the ,manner in which banana republics hold their elections.

Your president just summoned republican lawmakers from Michigan to the White House. Do you think it was for a game of poker? To check on how their families were going? To have a chat about golf? Well, whatever the reason was, they found it necessary to issue a statement after the meeting that they would not be changing the results of the election. That they were bound by the will of the electorate. That they would not be certifying the election results in any way that countered the democratic process.

Now gee, I wonder why they felt they had to do that right after meeting Trump. I wonder what he must have asked them to do. Whatever it was, they felt that they had to declare that they had a commitment to the people they represent. To the voting public. Whose decision they will respect and whose choice they will honour.

They are starting to distance themselves from Trump. Any reasonable Republican with any decency should do the same.

 

[HarryStotle]

Yeah, no. I prefer embarrassed underdogs to those who wish to dictate to me what I ought to think or do.

Now gee, I wonder why they felt they had to do that right after meeting Trump.

My guess is intimidation from all the pretentiously powerful media who also want to dictate to them what is good for the people.

 

[Freddy]

My guess is intimidation from all the pretentiously powerful media who also want to dictate to them what is good for the people.

They were intimidated to state that they would be fulfilling the wishes of the people of their state? They were intimidated to state that they would be ensuring that the democratic process was followed according to the wishes of the electorate? They were intimidated to state that they would be following the legal processes they had sworn to uphold? They were intimidated to state that they would not be persuaded to subvert the will of the people?

Since when does anyone need to be intimidated to state that they will doing their job and following due process?

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

 

[blackforest]

A single payer system just sets rates and pays for everything, it doesn’t guarantee good delivery of care. So, simply having a single payer system is not going to magically solve health care problems.

I think we get that. Health care coverage means simply that. Systemic flaws like the high rate of medical error will need to be addressed separately.

While I see the appeal, I think that a two-tier system would be more accepted by more people here in the US.

Are you referring to a choice between public and private options, as they have in the U.K.?

 

[HarryStotle]

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

Actually very far from it. She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states. That evidence would indicate the voters were disenfranchised by the fraud and therefore the actual wishes of the people would be to have all the electors selected for Trump. That is hardly a coup. Maybe a coop, seeing as I am hearing a lot of clucking.

Now you may not believe that, but if she does have that evidence then your view on things is kind of irrelevant.

 

[Freddy]

Freddy:

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

Actually very far from it. She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states. That evidence would indicate the voters were disenfranchised by the fraud and therefore the actual wishes of the people would be to have all the electors selected for Trump. That is hardly a coup. Maybe a coop, seeing as I am hearing a lot of clucking.

Now you may not believe that, but if she does have that evidence then your view on things is kind of irrelevant.

She has presented ZERO evidence. Even Tucker Carlson on Fox has called her out on that (Tucker Carlson calls you out and you have really hit rock bottom). All she says she has, on her own admission, is an afidavit from someone who says they they thought Chavez had software especially written for him so he could rig his own elections. End of story. That’s it.

Apart from the fact that that might not be true, there is a monstrous ‘Huh?’ from everyone who hasn’t got sand in their ears. As in ‘Where is any evidence WHATSOEVER that the two things are connected in some way.’ It’s like saying that you used Windows Explorer for nefarious purposes and I’m guilty of the same thing because I use it as well.

It’s laughably inept. Or rather it would be worth a laugh if it wasn’t so desperately serious and damaging to the very bedrock of democracy.

Here’s my take on it and you heard it here first. This ship of fools is sinking fast before everyone eyes. And the rats are starting to abandon it. I’m giving it a few days - a week tops, and Trump will be left alone on board desperately rearranging the deckchairs and tweeting to the last - ‘But I won!’

I will take inordinate delight in watching him sink.

The only thing left will be a few bubbles, an orange slick on the ocean and an important question hanging in the air: Where does the Republican Party go to from here?

 

[Socrates92]

Single-payer health care normally comes with a private option, so that “allowing no private ownership” part would be null and void.

The government has a monopoly on most aspects of healthcare in Canada. I’m willing to entertain the possibility that we’re abnormal, of course.

 

[sallybutler]

She has presented ZERO evidence. Even Tucker Carlson on Fox has called her out on that (Tucker Carlson calls you out and you have really hit rock bottom). All she says she has, on her own admission, is an afidavit from someone who says they they thought Chavez had software especially written for him so he could rig his own elections. End of story. That’s it.

I keep feeling like I’m in a bad movie and the next line is “If we told you we’d have to kill you”

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Freddy:

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

Actually very far from it. She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states.

You mean she says she has evidence. But then, Trump and his inner circle have been saying a lot of things that are straight up kooky dooks.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Freddy:

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

Actually very far from it. She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states. That evidence would indicate the voters were disenfranchised by the fraud and therefore the actual wishes of the people would be to have all the electors selected for Trump. That is hardly a coup. Maybe a coop, seeing as I am hearing a lot of clucking.

Now you may not believe that, but if she does have that evidence then your view on things is kind of irrelevant.

She has presented ZERO evidence. Even Tucker Carlson on Fox has called her out on that (Tucker Carlson calls you out and you have really hit rock bottom). All she says she has, on her own admission, is an afidavit from someone who says they they thought Chavez had software especially written for him so he could rig his own elections. End of story. That’s it.

Apart from the fact that that might not be true, there is a monstrous ‘Huh?’ from everyone who hasn’t got sand in their ears. As in ‘Where is any evidence WHATSOEVER that the two things are connected in some way.’ It’s like saying that you used Windows Explorer for nefarious purposes and I’m guilty of the same thing because I use it as well.

It’s laughably inept. Or rather it would be worth a laugh if it wasn’t so desperately serious and damaging to the very bedrock of democracy.

Here’s my take on it and you heard it here first. This ship of fools is sinking fast before everyone eyes. And the rats are starting to abandon it. I’m giving it a few days - a week tops, and Trump will be left alone on board desperately rearranging the deckchairs and tweeting to the last - ‘But I won!’

I will take inordinate delight in watching him sink.

The only thing left will be a few bubbles, an orange slick on the ocean and an important question hanging in the air: Where does the Republican Party go to from here?

There is no requirement for Sydney Powell to make her legal evidence available to Tucker Carlson or to you unless you believe the kangaroo court of public opinion is the reigning court and you its Supreme Justice with Tucker being the court reporter.

That is delusional if you don’t mind my pointing it out.

Besides that, your precognitive biases have fallen out all over the floor.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Freddy:

Look what Powell (lawyer for Trump) said yesterday: '… the legislatures (in all swing states) should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump".

That’s not far off proposing a coup.

Actually very far from it. She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states.

You mean she says she has evidence. But then, Trump and his inner circle have been saying a lot of things that are straight up kooky dooks.

We live in a kooky dook world, in case you haven’t noticed.

A semi-senile guy who has difficulty stringing together two words, and who has been holed up in his basement for six months rarely making an appearance, and who has been very secretive about what he will do when elected has supposedly won the election with more votes than anyone ever in history with the help of the suddenly mysteriously censorious press and big tech. Seems he hit all the right kooky dook buttons to trigger votes in massive numbers in the middle of the night.

Apparently the number of kooky dooks has exploded and found the opportunity to vote in this election more so than ever. At the same time, these kooky dooks show up as zero registered ghost voters dozens and dozens of times on the Wayne County voter tabulations which will still likely get certified because it is “racist” not to.

Kooky dook appears to be the ticket these days.

Perhaps when the kooky dookery has been fully litigated we can return to some semblance of normalcy talking about the weather or the climate or something.

 

[HarryStotle]

Trump and his inner circle have been saying a lot of things that are straight up kooky dooks.

Most votes ever to a presidential candidate?

Okay, taken out of context.

Yet the context makes them no less kooky dook.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

We live in a kooky dook world, in case you haven’t noticed.

So, you totally missed the Moana reference then?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

A semi-senile guy who has difficulty stringing together two words…

Biden is doing very well compensating for his stutter, and can still make more sense than Trump, whose only elocution skill is in talking fast.

and who has been holed up in his basement for six months rarely making an appearance

and still managed to beat the pants off of a sitting President - something that has only happened ten times in American history.

At the same time, these kooky dooks show up as zero registered ghost voters

Wild speculation with no basis in fact.

 

[HarryStotle]

Forensic accounting, however, does have basis in facts.

The machines in areas indicating fraud by mathematical analysis ought to be apprehended and analyzed.

Them’s the facts.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

At the same time, these kooky dooks show up as zero registered ghost voters

Wild speculation with no basis in fact.

As I posted elsewhere…

In precinct after precinct in Wayne County MI, the registered voters are zero and the turnout rate as N/A precisely because every one of them would be a division by zero error (a/0) if the actual percent turnout was recorded. And far beyond 100% if the actual registered voters were.

Nothing to see here.

You would certify those results? Honestly?

Source document is here…

https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/clerk/election-results.aspx

Open the Voting Statistics pdf on that webpage. Scroll to pages 93 and following.

Now explain your “no basis in fact” claim.

 

[felsguy]

She has evidence that Trump did, in fact, win all of the swing states.

Of course he won all the swing states. He won all the blue states too…and all the blue counties…and all the blue precincts…and even my vote. I’m just under the delusion that I actually voted for someone else.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Forensic accounting, however, does have basis in facts.

The machines in areas indicating fraud by mathematical analysis ought to be apprehended and analyzed.

Them’s the facts.

It just so happens that I am a mathematician too, and so I was very interested to see what “mathematical impossibilities” the speaker was referring. Funnily enough, the one he referred to - the supposed difference between straight Republican tickets and split party tickets that voted for Trump - I just happened to have seen a very accurate and detailed debunking of that theory, and if you have any understanding of correlations and statistics, I invite you to see it too and then, if you still think the theory is sound, explain were Matt Parker got it wrong: