Will Learning Latin Make Me More Catholic?

[CilladeRoma]

During an OF Mass, the demons have been known to remain until consecration at which time they flee, but during EF Mass they are repelled at the beginning

You, @Aquinas11, made this assertion.
I am asking you for official Church teaching that states this. If it exists, it should not be difficult for you to produce.

 

[phil19034]

Make you “more Catholic,” no.

Make you more educated, yes.

 

[Aquinas11]

I am asking you for official Church teaching that states this

No, that’s not true. You first asked for a “source”

Source, please?

Which I provided. But that wasn’t sufficient, so you then asked for

an actual Church source

you then changed that to

an official publication of the Catholic Church

etc
etc

I get it. You disagree with the assertion in the book. So you started to move the goal posts on what “source” means. And now you’re in position where your own posts assertions are false since they’re not “official Church publication”

 

[Irishmom2]

And what assertions do you think she made though?

 

[Salibi]

But the fact remains that what you claimed is unsupported by Church teaching.

 

[ProVobis]

If I go by that criteria, I’m a worse Catholic day by day.

 

[Aquinas11]

But the fact remains that what you claimed is unsupported by Church teaching.

I never asserted it was supported by Church teaching, so that’s a strawman

 

[ewohdrol]

I learnt Latin in my youth. I can still understand much of it today but wouldn’t be comfortable speaking it.

The only real benefit I have gained from it is it occassionally helps me with root word understanding in my job (biological researcher). It certainly doesn’t help me in my faith, in fact I refuse to go to the TLM in my area due to other reasons I will not disclose here.

 

[CilladeRoma]

Your are being completely disingenuous.
I asked for source from the Church that agreed with your comments about Mass.
You know exactly what I am asking for, yet refuse to admit that no such thing exists.

You do this board, the Church and anyone who comes here asking questions about what the Church teaches no favors with your attitude and rhetoric.

 

[Aquinas11]

Of course. You asserted it was supported by Jesse

So now you are asserting Jesse Romero is Church teaching, ok.

What is your Church teaching for that?

 

[Salibi]

So now you are asserting Jesse Romero is Church teaching, ok.

What is your Church teaching for that?

…what?

Ten chars

 

[JulianN]

No. It was the vernacular of Rome. It’s only seen as sacred because the Church kept it – nothing about it is inherently sacred.

 

[Salibi]

Well you first asserted I said it was supported by “Church teaching”

And then said I asserted it was supported by Jesse Romero.

So you’re asserting Jesse Romero is Church teaching, which is false.

I’ve read this five times. I fail to see how you reached this conclusion.

I said your answer was NOT supported by Church teaching, but by the Jesse Romero you kept referencing, whose opinion I told you I shall be disregarding given that it is not in alignment with Church teaching.

 

[ProVobis]

Latin was on Crucifix

It still is. INRI

 

[JulianN]

During an OF Mass, the demons have been known to remain until consecration at which time they flee, but during EF Mass they are repelled at the beginning where the Priest walks throughout congregation and casts holy water, and calls on Angels to come and guard all who assemble at this place. So not only does the language (again) remind demons of Crucifix, but you have holy water and you have a call for Angels to come and protect the congregation. Three factors not present in the OF that repels the demons right at the beginning of the Mass.

This is completely fallacious. Not to mention ridiculous. Please provide any Church teaching that supports this.

 

[Aquinas11]

Source already provided. See posts above.

 

[ProVobis]

it’s no more divine or supernatural than any other human language.

Maybe but it’s not as barbaric as English.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

during EF Mass they are repelled at the beginning where the Priest walks throughout congregation and casts holy water, and calls on Angels to come and guard all who assemble at this place.

I am asking you for official Church teaching that states this

This is completely fallacious. Not to mention ridiculous.

IMHO I believe that @Aquinas11 is saying that this is the experience that Jesse Romero saw and had while working for the Los Angelus county sheriff’s department. I have heard Jesse speak years ago, I believe on Catholic Answers, and his stories are harrowing.

As far as the EF and OF Mass what everyone seems to be missing is that in the EF Mass the priest starts with prayers for protection and the sprinkling of holy water which St. Teresa of Avila said this about:

From long experience I have learned that there is nothing like holy water to put devils to flight and prevent them from coming back again. They also flee from the Cross, but return; so holy water must have great virtue.

Not every spiritual experience will be listed in Church teaching.

 

[ProVobis]

Because that’s the language that Jesus spoke!

Then why wasn’t the New Testament written in Aramaic?

 

[tafan2]

Me too, I was just answering the question of what else besides Latin will make someone a better Catholic. Believe me, I need help in every item on the list.