Will Learning Latin Make Me More Catholic?

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Excellent list. I may have to print that and stick it on my fridge and yes, those far more important than English v. Latin
 
@Aquinas11 I think you are playing with rhetoric and words but you know exactly what we are talking about. Let’s say it in plain English. You basically are affirming that in NO Mass devils are in attendance until Consecration while in EF not. You are also saying that the Latin Language has some ‘super power’ so prayers said in other languages don’t have the same efficacy against the devil. This is unheard of in Official Catholic teachings (= Catechism of the Catholic Church and similar) and has also very serious implications. Your only source is a book of Jesse Romero, so basically a personal opinion or (at best) a personal revelation.
 
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The bulk of the New Testament was written in Greek, but scholars (including Dr. Scott Hahn) assert that there is strong evidence that the Gospel of Matthew was written in either Hebrew or Aramaic. This is because of certain turns of phrase that don’t actually make sense in Greek, but make sense when they’re translated back into Hebrew or Aramaic.

I suspect - and this is purely speculation on my part, so take it with a grain of salt - that the primary reason the New Testament was written in Greek instead of Aramaic is that Greek was the language spoken by the bulk of the Roman Empire at that time. The authors of the New Testament weren’t just writing for a Hebrew/Jewish audience… They weren’t even primarily writing for a Hebrew/Jewish audience (with the exception of Matthew’s Gospel and the Letter to the Hebrews).

But the fact remains, Jesus spoke Aramaic.
 
Latin is no more (and no less) part of the universal heritage of the Catholic Church than are Syriac, Greek, Church Slavonic, Coptic, or any liturgical language of the Church. Learning Latin, therefore, does not make you any more “Catholic” than would learning Greek or one of the other liturgical languages of the Church.

If you want to become more “Catholic” (in the true sense of the word), then do what Pope St. John Paul II encouraged all Catholics to do, and learn to breathe with both the Eastern and the Western lungs of the Church.

Now, if your goal is holiness, then follow the example of the saints (not all of whom knew Latin). Do what they did and you’ll become holy.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
The authors of the New Testament weren’t just writing for a Hebrew/Jewish audience…
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Did St Paul write all his letters to different audiences in Greek? What about Romans? Just curious.
 
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Thanks. It was off the top of my head, which means I have absolutely no excuse for not being a better Catholic than I am.
 
aroosi said:
You basically are affirming that in NO Mass devils are in attendance until Consecration while in EF not.
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Never said that and not true. I won’t say anymore on this beyond people should read the book and listen to him on Taylor Marshall show, specifically starting around 16:00 mark

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You are also saying that the Latin Language has some ‘super power’ so prayers said in other languages don’t have the same efficacy against the devil. This is unheard of in Official Catholic teachings
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Again, I am not saying anything nor did I cite to Catholic teaching. I’m citing to a source of someone who has worked in field with Exorcists. Feel free to read the book and critique it.
 
I’ve never heard it speculated that St. Paul wrote in Latin. If you know of a resource that makes the case he wrote in Latin to the Romans, I’d be very grateful if you could point me to it! 😄

From what I’ve understood, at the time St. Paul was writing, Greek was the predominant language throughout the Roman Empire, including in Rome. Latin was considered a “vulgar” language (the English of it’s day, I suppose).
 
Nor is Mr. Romero (or Dr. Taylor Marshall for that matter) a theologian. 😄
 
He has a Master’s Degree in Catholic Theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville in Ohio.

Does this make him a Theologian ?
 
Perhaps it does, in which case I stand corrected…

Although I’ve all but got my MA in Theology from Franciscan (had to quit because of life circumstances with just two classes left to complete), and I’d consider myself to be far from being a theologian. The older I get and the more I dive into my Faith, the more I realize just how utterly ignorant I am. 😝
 
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I’ve heard Jesse Romero talk a couple of times and the point of the language with an exorcism was they were not having any success with the vernacular so they switched to praying in Latin and they were successful with the exorcism in a very short period of time.
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And you believe this ?

FYI, Jesse Romero isn’t an exorcist nor even a priest
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So, I guess I would reply with, can you show me where he is lying? This was his experience while working with an exorcist. I have no reason or way to prove it not to be true. Do you?
 
I never said he was lying

Being wrong doesn’t make the person a liar
 
Yes; it absolutely will in the most literal sense.
See the link below to the Vatican, which explains how and why:

http://www.vatican.va/content/bened...-xvi_motu-proprio_20121110_latina-lingua.html

I read an awful lot of groundless, subjective and shallow nonsense about Church Latin not being 'special ’ or extraordinary in any way - that utterly contradicts the saints, Fathers of the Church and ancient tradition. Latin is one of the three sacred languages; Greek and Hebrew being the other two. This is due to the titulus placed upon the cross above Christ’s head at the crucifixion. See any exegetical work on the Gospels by any of the Church Fathers, and this will explain and confirm it.

These are not my opinions: they are the teachings of the Church, Saints and Fathers.
 
So, should the prerequisite for becoming a Bishop, that they be fluent in Latin ?

If I recall correctly, few Bishops today are fluent in Latin. They rely on translators, but few Vatican documents today are issued exclusively in Latin
 
Last I checked, knowing Latin was not one of the 5 precepts of the Church. By that standard, the Apostles were not very Catholic.
 
Doesn’t say that on his blog site

jesseromero.com

Who is Jesse Romero? | Jesse Romero

As St. Jerome taught, “Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.” Therefore, Catholics should read the Holy Bible with the Heart of the Church and study the Holy Bible using Catholic commentaries and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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I stand to be corrected if wrong
 
You said that (devil in NO Mass) but somehow your post got deleted not in the usual way. @CilladeRoma and @JimR-OCDS even replied to your post but if you click to see which post they are replying to, the link is now broken. Usually you would see flagged/deleted post but your post was totally removed.

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And this is when you talk about Latin being more effective.
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