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laylow
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I agree, and would argue he is making it worse.
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Rudolph
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Of course. Pope Francis also questioned him being pro life for the breaking up of families.
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JanetF
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This was me too! Third party all the way.
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DENNYINMI
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Taxes are not involuntary charity. Not when they benefit myself. My goodness!~
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Aquinas11
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If you don’t pay them you go to jail, so they are involuntary.
Breathing benefits me too. As does eating. The mere fact that something benefits someone doesn’t make it voluntary… There are many involuntary acts that benefit us.
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DENNYINMI
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Yes Aquinas, you go to the big house.
While they aren’t involuntary, they certainly aren’t charity.
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Aquinas11
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They’re not involuntary, yet you face jail if you don’t pay them?
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DENNYINMI
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That would be correct…lol
Putting taxes on a footing with “involuntary charity” is a rare thought. At one time there was a tax break for giving to charitable causes. IF charity was an involuntary tax as you suggest, it would be rather odd to get a tax break on paying a tax. But that’s the logic of your logic.
All I’m saying Aquinas, is give the two words (charity and taxes) their distinct differentiation without making a mockery of the word “charity”.
You could say “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and Render unto God that which is Gods”…Jesus said that and it’s a great distinction!~
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Aquinas11
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well if you believe the threat is going to jail doesn’t affect ones voluntary decisions, I obviously disagree.
That’s a strawman. I said taxes are involuntary charity, not that charity is an involuntary tax. But feel free to quote me saying “charity is an involuntary tax” and correct me.
Its clear that I’m suggesting voluntary charity is more virtuous than involuntary charity since its chosen and not mandated and more consistent with Gospel. Jesus never ordered people to follow his instructions. In fact, its because the acts are voluntary that makes them more virtuous than if Jesus had ordered to follow his instructions. Its also just plain common sense. It takes more effort to do something when you’re not compelled to do it. Its also more impacting to others when you do something for them when it was unexpected and unforced.
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Actually, NOT
Trump promised to appoint pro life judges if elected, and he did that after he was elected, and will continue to do while he is in office. How is that irresponsible?
An issue for the voters.
How do you explain all the positives, some we haven’t seen in 50 yrs, other’s since we’ve been taking records ?
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JimG
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It doesn’t matter much what Trump personally believes, as long as he supports pro-life policies in practice; just as it doesn’t matter if a Catholic politician is personally opposed to abortion, but supports pro-abortion policies in practice.
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Elf01
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Indeed. I may not trust that he is pro life, but I trust him to support pro life policies to keep his base.
I also do trust Pence.
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laylow
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Being a perpetual liar is what makes it manipulative. He turncoats on people when they no longer help or fit his agenda.
Appointing a President just to get judges appointed to support ONE issue you are in favor of is irresponsible. Looking at the entire picture is a more prudent.
What positives? The economy? Well, that was pretty much a given, since that is his sole motivation and he doesn’t care who he hurts to get what he wants.
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laylow
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That’s hypocritical. He can (pretend) support what he wants to do get what he wants and then change his mind. He does this all of the time. You think this is a good long time solution for trust and how to run a government?
I am also curious on how abortion became the ONLY issue anyone on the right seems to care about.
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laylow
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You realize others, who are more moderates, see that as fraudulent and can backfire politically? I some times wonder if the right-wingers think the ship is already sinking and are just good with squeezing a few years out of what is left on their time. A win-at-all-costs strategy is usually quite short term.
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steve-b
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IOW he turns against those who turn against him? Gee how unique.steve-b:
Being a perpetual liar is what makes it manipulative. He turncoats on people when they no longer help or fit his agenda.
It’s another huge issue. And again, he is on the right side of that issue.
look at the unemployment issue. Lowest in 50 yrs. Not to mention, Lowest black unemployment in the history of keeping that statistic. That doesn’t happen by accident.
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JimG
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I can’t pretend to read the president’s mind but I can judge by what he does. He has taken actions to support the pro-life agenda such as reinstating the Mexico City policy and appointing judicial conservatives. Actual pro-life actions are more convincing than words with no actions.
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steve-b
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Amen!
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laylow
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Yeah, he was a model citizen before “people” turned against him. Anyone defending his character is truly delusional.
I haven’t fact-checked this, I’ll assume it’s correct. At what cost? Foreign relations are horrible. The climate is only getting worse. He is concerned about protecting the US, but now we are known as the selfish bully. We can’t know what the long term damage will be, but the rich/poor divide will most certainly grow globally.
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laylow
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Serious question: Are you more worried about pro-life policy, or actual number reduction?
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