Wisconsin election number, 3.2 million voted out of 3.6 million registered voters

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gam197 said:
Still I and many other are not convince that these voters are legal.
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Well, there is the sentinel effect. That’s people do better when they know someone is watching.

This shouldn’t be so contriversial. There might be opportunities for shenanigans, but that doesn’t mean they occurred. And, if they did occur, it was onsies and twosies, not massive fraud at scale.
 
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puer.dei said:
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gam197:
Checking an envelop signature when there is one seems like a pretty low bar for authenticity.
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Wasn’t a problem for Republicans when Trump won.
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There were few "mail in " ballots during the 2016 election cycle.
 
gam197 said:
Yes and it has never been a valid form prior to this election.
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Oregon has been using exclusively mail-in voting since 1998.

You would think it would have been the canary in the coal mine for fraud.

Sometimes reality hurts.

Plus, if Democrats were so good at voter fraud, why didn’t they bother to rig the Senate? That seems like an oversight.

Note the date on the second article.


 
billsherman said:
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gam197:
Yes and it has never been a valid form prior to this election.
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Oregon has been using exclusively mail-in voting since 1998.
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Oregon is one state.
billsherman said:
Plus, if Democrats were so good at voter fraud, why didn’t they bother to rig the Senate? That seems like an oversight.
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The reverse of that could be stated. If there was no blue wave which there was not, why would all these Republicans get voted back into office if not on the coattail of the President?
 
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gam197 said:
If there was no blue wave which there was not, why would all these Republicans get voted back into office if not on the coattail of the President?
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Because Trump was/is historically unpopular. There really were no surprises about him losing. Predictions came to fruition. If anything, the surprise happened in 2016.

Look at his approval ratings against previous presidents, below. There is just no reason to think he had coattails. He wasn’t (isn’t) popular, and never has been.

 
billsherman said:
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gam197:
If there was no blue wave which there was not, why would all these Republicans get voted back into office if not on the coattail of the President?
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Because Trump was/is historically unpopular. There really were no surprises about him losing. Predictions came to fruition. If anything, the surprise happened in 2016.

Look at his approval ratings against previous presidents, below. There is just no reason to think he had coattails. He wasn’t (isn’t) popular, and never has been.
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He got half the vote in 2016 so someone thought he was a good candidate.

There pollsters kept saying Biden would win by 10-17 percent and that did not happen. There was no blue wave as predicted. Republicans got re-elected.

What there was was mail-in ballots many of which have not be authenticated. Over 450,000 were left blank except for a vote for Biden, what was that all about?
 
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billsherman said:
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gam197:
There pollsters kept saying Biden would win by 10-17 percent and that did not happen. There was no blue wave as predicted. Republicans got re-elected.
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Your understanding of the pre-election polls is flawed.
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Over and over the pollsters predicted that Biden would run away with it, some as high as 17 percent. They did the same with Hillary Clinton. They said there was no way that Donald Trump would win and we all know how that went in 2016. Yes, the pollsters were way off. This time it was even worse with this idea of a blue wave sweeping the country.

And Facebook and Twitter did not ban the New Tork Post from posting a story about Hunter’s Biden’s laptop, did they? Nice that we can all change how it happened and switch stories.

We listened to these pollsters for months prior to the election and how Biden was going to have a landslide victory.
 
gam197 said:
He got half the vote in 2016 so someone thought he was a good candidate.
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He got less than half. Trump did not get the popular vote. Not that our elections are a popularity contest.
gam197 said:
There pollsters kept saying Biden would win by 10-17 percent and that did not happen.
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They should check their methods if they said this. It sounds like a flaw in their predictions.
 
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gam197 said:
Over and over the pollsters predicted that Biden would run away with it, some as high as 17 percent
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And if the Democrats had rigged the election, he would have. What’s your point? Sounds like the lower margin is proof that the election was not rigged.
 
Al Gore contested until December 12th, 2000, end of, we are not even a month away.

As said, I think if roles were reversed, the Democrats and media would be cheering this on.
 
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ThinkingSapien said:
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gam197:
He got half the vote in 2016 so someone thought he was a good candidate.
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He got less than half. Trump did not get the popular vote. Not that our elections are a popularity contest.
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ThinkingSapien said:
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gam197:
There pollsters kept saying Biden would win by 10-17 percent and that did not happen.
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They should check their methods if they said this. It sounds like a flaw in their predictions.
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They did the same with Clinton, said that she would win, that she was ahead by 10 percent and there was no question of who the victor would be.

Seems to be a pattern. The pollsters said that it would be a Biden landslide.
 
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gam197 said:
The pollsters said that it would be a Biden landslide.
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Once again, you are either falling to understand the pre-election polling, or are willfully constructing a false narrative to support your evidence-free claims of fraud. Please take a solid look at this article about various pre-election polls. While the possibility of a landslide for Biden existed, it was hardly the only possible outcome (and was generally considered unlikely).

I’m sorry your candidate lost. If we wish to live in anything resembling a republic, however, we have to deal with it. The correct way to deal with it, is to lick your wounds and try and win in 2024. Without the Senate, Biden won’t be able to do much anyway (will Senate Republicans even confirm his judges and agency appointments?).

 
gam197 said:
No but he did get the electoral college vote.,
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Nice goal post switching there! The electoral count wasn’t in question. The statement that he got half the vote in 2016 though is completely false. I wanted to point out that error.
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They did the same with Clinton, said that she would win, that she was ahead by 10 percent and there was no question of who the victor would be.
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Is this a statement on popular vote? By how much was she ahead?
 
And Ultimately it will be Biden landslide if Trump’s 2016 was a landslide

With the numbers reversed.

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billsherman said:
Once again, you are either falling to understand the pre-election polling, or are willfully constructing a false narrative to support your evidence-free claims of fraud. Please take a solid look at this article about various pre-election polls. While the possibility of a landslide for Biden existed, it was hardly the only possible outcome (and was generally considered unlikely).
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The RealClearPolitics average of rec
ent polls showed Joe Biden with more than 51 percent of the popular vote and Donald Trump with 44 percent.Will read.
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Even the pollsters of the left are saying they got it wrong.


 
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BTW how does the Senate Race work in Georgia?

Here in the next state over, Statewide, everybody votes for both Senators.
 
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