Women, how should catholic men treat you?

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Sorry but I agree that men should open doors etc for women. My husband opens the car door for me and we expect our boys to respect girls / women and be courteous to them as they grow up.
 
I expect my son to be courteous—but I expect the same of my daughter. I wouldn’t want either of them to think women deserve some extra consideration just because they’re women. In the same way men don’t have some automatic authority just because they’re men.
 
Sorry but men and women are different and a lot of men, myself included, were taught to open doors for women and to pay for dates and to walk on the side of the street where the cars are closest so as to protect women.
 
It’s not about a woman’s capabilities it’s just about men protecting women and being chivalrous
 
The problem can be that men who think they need to protect women can end up having issues with women in authority over them. Perhaps it shouldn’t work that way, but it does
 
Like when a man walks on the car side of the road if the water splashes from the street it would get the man and not the woman. It’s just nice
 
tafan2 said:
Yes, everyone should be polite and courteous to everyone. But no, it is men’s job to hold open doors for women. You won’t convince me otherwise. I was taught that way by some ladies who were truly saints. I was taught that by my parents.
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Le_Crouton said:
Sorry but men and women are different and a lot of men, myself included, were taught to open doors for women and to pay for dates and to walk on the side of the street where the cars are closest so as to protect women.
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I just want to say that many women are very very appreciative of this type of behavior from men. Women I know and myself included and it is so good to hear men say they treat women this way and plan to continue.

This is what I was taught also how men should be. This is how my husband is and my father was. It is respectful and courteous.

After a time of finally ignoring feminism I was taught that a woman would be courteous back and say thank you, which is the polite thing to do.
 
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tafan2 said:
No there is a polite way to stand back, hold out one hand to offer to let a lady go first, and to take the door from her. I may be describing it poorly, but it can be done very unintrusively.
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That. You don’t yank it out of her hands, you
a) make reasonable an non-intrusive efforts to be there, and
b) you don’t yank doors out of other folks hands; you offer to take it.

It is also basic courtesy to take the door from a man for whom it is heavy (for some reason, there are an awful lot of doors on buildings that are ridiculously heavy for their purposes, and too much for smaller individuals of either gender, the infirm, and the elderly).
tafan2 said:
I vividly recall the Benedictine nun who spent time teaching us manners.
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This, too.

It was generally our mothers and nuns who taught us these manners.

(and I recall a girlfriend in college whose mother would sit and wait if her husband didn’t come around the car to open her door . . .)
Cecilia_Dympna said:
It is a little weird for me. Does it matter who opens the door for who?
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Would society collapse? Probably not.

But there are many of these rules, from standing when a woman enters or gets up, opening doors, fetching things, walking street-side of her on the sidewalk (modernly, to protect from the splash; historically, well . . . when chamberpots we’re emptied from the upper floor, it landed farther from the building), defending even at extreme risk to our own life, and so forth.
Cecilia_Dympna said:
It is not men’s job to open doors for women.
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You’re not arguing with us on this, but our mothers and grandmothers . . .
SusanneT said:
give up their seat etc and to do the same for the elderly.
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Thats another major one I missed.

At nine months pregnant with me, my mother found herself standing on busses due to men who hadn’t been raised properly!
Cecilia_Dympna said:
What do we need protection from?
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Chevies, Fords, Cadillacs, and assorted imports 😜🤣:roll_eyes:
 
JulianN said:
Apparently, not just men. Young un-pregnant women should have offered her a seat.
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Yes, but the men should have beaten to it, and if they failed at that, offered their places to the now unseated women.
 
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that last one. Two equally healthy people of similar age have equal rights to a seat in my book. The elderly, infirm, or pregnant get dibs.
 
Nah there’s a hierarchy. Women have more of a right to seats than men assuming all else is equal
 
JulianN said:
Two equally healthy people of similar age have equal rights to a seat in my book.
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Not in the world I was raised in. My mother would be horrified (and, yes, I’ve seen her chide both her own brood and others).

Since my last post, I also checked many wife’s oil which she doesn’t know how to do (time for a full change, which I will also do), and put it in the driveway for her for the morning (it was parked across the street to allow garage access.

I think my mother actually put gas in a car.

Once.

And it was because we (my brothers, father, and I) hadn’t done our job.
JulianN said:
Why?
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If nothing else, recognition of what they share with she who bore our Savior.

hawk
 
I guess we just have different experiences. I know how to change the oil and a tire. And certainly put gas in my own car. My husband, on the other hand, is way better at doing the laundry than I am.

I have no problem with accepting courtesy graciously—it’s what makes the world a better place. But I know from personal experience that some (not saying you, but some) men who think women deserve special treatment are also the men who think women shouldn’t be the boss.
 
That’s what racists say too. Just saying you’re assuming a lot
 
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