Women Wearing Men's Neckties

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Now that Payless stores have closed, I simply can’t find “dress” shoes in my size, and I simply refuse to spend a lot of money on something that I never wear. Payless carried shoes up through size 12 for women!
I’m at the point that my next pair of dress shoes I will probably buy two pair in two different sizes. My left foot is the deformed one from the surgeries and if I can inset extra cushioning, I could get away with it but I need my right foot to feel comfortable, too and not have a shoe go flying off my foot when I walk!

See what our profession did to us! I know of three other techs in our lab that have had foot surgeries for various issues.
 
Have a frank talk with your daughter about how having a lot of hair on your body, especially your face, is not something fun. That’s one angle. Kind of like a man getting a vagina but not having to have the menstruation that usually comes with it. Is that called having your cake and eating it too?
No, you see, the isssue is, she thinks she is “trans” and uses synthetic testosterone. It’s all mental…
 
Oooh, I wish I could do the same (organist too). Instead, as my feet are too small for most men’s shoes, and I’m short-legged anyway, I wear ballroom dancing shoes.
Yes, my organ teacher tells me that organists do that!
 
I used to do gymnastics and as a result have a lot of muscle definition even when I was underweight.

I have been told I wasn’t feminine enough because of this. I also have been told I wasn’t feminine enough because I took STEM classes.

Women aren’t supposed to be too tall, too athletic or too intelligent.

They’re supposed to be dainty…and dim.
 
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Women aren’t supposed to be too tall, too athletic or too intelligent.

They’re supposed to dainty…and dim.
None of my daughters showed any inclination to the “hard” sciences (not particularly surprising, since neither of their parents had such an inclination). When we were planning for college, there were a ton of scholarships available for women pursuing STEM and other “hard” science fields. Liberal arts? Not so much.

Friends of mine met while both were working for a government public works agency - she was his supervisor. Both are engineers. She has many wild stories to tell about being a woman in a man-dominated profession.
 
May I add…The best compliment a “Lady” can receive is from a Man…I too had a career in a man-dominated career…one comment a man made was that he detested his wife wearing his shirts…men do not like women wearing their clothes! Also, men like women to dress in feminine clothes, like dresses, heels, a woman who takes care of herself and her appearance will always get the attention of men…better stated is that if a woman cares about herself then she probably care about everything in her life.
An intelligent woman is one to be respected for her knowledge and this is not an unattractive trait for a man!
An older Lady got our attention last week in an ammunition shop we went to. She, of all things to wear, was dressed in a leopard-print top with black pants and high heels. She was looking at a semi-automatic rifle. She had an intense look on her face…Variety makes the world go round… 🐾 👠 🔫
 
As a police officer, I have to wear a tie when I wear a long-sleeved shirt or my dress uniform. I have never thought it made me less feminine.
 
I think you’ll find it’s a personal problem based on biological tendencies.
 
It wasn’t flagged by me, so I don’t know what you are referring to.
 
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men do not like women wearing their clothes
With all due respect,
  1. The statement of one or even a few men is hardly so universal that one can attribute it to “Men”.
    The vast majority of men I met didn’t care what a woman had on as long as it was appropriate and practical for the job she was doing. Indeed, many of them barely noticed what a woman had on unless it was so revealing or outlandish as to get attention.
  2. Even if some men have a preference about what women should wear, why would I care? The United States is a free country. I’m allowed to choose what I wear within reason. If my clothing does not meet a reasonable workplace dress code or poses a safety hazard, I would expect a manager to let me know. Otherwise, I am free to choose my own clothes and I honestly don’t give two Fig Newtons what any other man or woman thinks of them.
 
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Pant suits for women have been around a long time.

I also know that the TV newswomen wear quite the opposite apparel - they wear low-cut, sleeveless dresses. They could be going to a cocktail party after work.

I have also noticed many of them are blondes. (I realize that maybe they are encouraged to have their hair dyed but you see a lot of blond-haired anchors.) Of course this is where I live, locally. They tend to be more conservative if they are broadcasting from other states.
 
I also know that the TV newswomen wear quite the opposite apparel - they wear low-cut, sleeveless dresses. They could be going to a cocktail party after work.
This is a fairly recent trend. Female anchors and reporters have dressed differently during different decades. They follow fashions like everyone else.
I do think you’re correct about the blonde hair being encouraged, but there have been some great broadcasters like Connie Chung who were not blonde. Also, there are more female reporters now who look like their various ethicities and even some who are more of a normal weight rather than stick thin bodies. It depends a lot on the market where you are.
 
I would hope that any man hoping to some day get a wife would not be so shallow as to reject a potential suitor because they wore a neck tie.

Actually, I quite like the idea of neck ties, I think they can look very elegant on women. They’re certainly not the definer of masculinity.
 
I said upthread that I’ve never worn a men’s necktie because it’s not my taste or style (and it’s not). But now I’m thinking maybe I’ll give it a try.
 
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All I take away from this is that it’s offensive that I man has standards for women.
You are free to have standards of attraction for yourself. If you’re only attracted to women who wear dresses —totally up to you. It’s like a woman only finding clean-shaven men attractive.

What’s not ok is your implication that men in general are free to set standards for all women in general. I, for example, don’t get to determine that all men must wear button-down shirts, more’s the pity.

I have male employees—one of them tells me I should have to wear a dress, my standard for him might become an unemployment line.
 
Women be proud of who you are…and look the part!
My tomboy of a daughter is proud of who she is. She wears Levis, a plaid shirt, and a baseball cap and routinely gets mistaken for a boy. I love her unconditionally and would never force her to change who she is.
 
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