Women Wearing Men's Neckties

[Sarcelle]

High heels shift the body’s center of gravity up and forward. This puts the buttocks and breasts on display. It also elongates the legs and cause women to walk in a more pronounced manner. This is why men like it.

Problem is, it not only destroys the feet but places tremendous strain on the lower back.

I once talked to a man who insisted that women must wear high heels in order to be considered feminine. I told him about the health consequences and he said he didn’t care. Beauty is pain after all. I thought he was unique in thinking that way but then met several men who also thought the same way.

I don’t see a lot of women here in the States wearing high heels but it seems like women in Latin America and Eastern Europe like to wear it. I even saw a woman hike in stiletto heels. She told me her husband prefers her to wear it even when hiking.

 

[Pattylt]

Another agony with shoes are pointed toes

I really do wish high heels of all designs would fall out of fashion for good. First off, those triangular pointed heels make big feet look even bigger. I’m a size 10-10.5 shoe. My feet are narrow and long…as are my arms and legs but I look like a clown in those shoes.

I’ve had three foot surgeries. I’m pretty much relegated to sneakers/trainers for the support and cushioning they give. This leaves me with a dilemma when wearing a dress! Do I wear sneakers and look ridiculous but pain free or wear a dress shoe and within twenty minutes be in excruciating pain. I’m embarrassed to say that the dress shoes usually win and the minute I’m back in my car, they come off.

For any woman wearing heels for long periods of time, especially daily, save up now for the foot surgeries you’ll need later.

 

[Lea101]

I really do wish high heels of all designs would fall out of fashion for good

No!! I’m just as tall as a 12 year old!

 

[Lea101]

I don’t see a lot of women here in the States wearing high heels but it seems like women in Latin America and Eastern Europe like to wear it. I even saw a woman hike in stiletto heels. She told me her husband prefers her to wear it even when hiking.

This reminds me of Gloria in Modern Family and her having ‘house heels’ lol! I’m glad we keep it way too casual here.

 

[BartholomewB]

I don’t see a lot of women here in the States wearing high heels but it seems like women in Latin America and Eastern Europe like to wear it. I even saw a woman hike in stiletto heels. She told me her husband prefers her to wear it even when hiking.

I remember a conversation, many years ago, with a young Italian woman, aged about 19 or 20, who was studying English in London. She can’t have been much over 5 foot tall, if that, and she only ever wore flat heels. When I asked her why, she said it was because when she was at home in Italy, her mother made her wear high heels all the time.

 

[Pattylt]

The issue with heels making you taller seems odd to me. In 3” heels, I’m 6’ tall. Who looks more lady like…a petite woman or very tall one. How many men are naturally attracted to woman taller than themselves vs. smaller. I don’t care if this sounds sexist but as someone who towered over her peers, I hated my height and was teased by boys and got horrifying looks by other girls…yes, this was high school where tribal clans rule the hallways but I never heard a guy say…she’s too short for me!

I got over it later. Plus, in the 90’s girls seemed to take a leap forward in average height and clothing, shoes and styles caught up. I guess it just boils down to we never are satisfied with what we are…especially those teen years. I hated my curly hair then when the “Cher” look was in. I love it now as I can wear it straight or curly or with beach waves. But those teen years were murder!

 

[DeniseNY]

I can’t believe that this is actually even an issue in 2020. The menswear has been around for a long time,. But I’ve never seen a woman wearing a tie. But if someone wanted to wear one, go for it.

For the last picture posted, I’d personally lose the boots and replace the tie with an open color and gold necklace.

 

[OraLabora]

Women wearing men’s ties? I see no issues. In fact they can have all of mine. I hate the things. I keep a few for funerals… I’d say “and weddings”, but at my age they are far and few between, and if and ever one of my kids gets married, I think they’d be OK with me not wearing a tie to their wedding.

 

[JanR]

These are very selfish men who would force women to endure pain and adverse health consequences just to satisfy their sense of aesthetics. One can tell where their priorities are, and they’re rather shallow.

I’ll bet if the tables were reversed and the men had to wear that foot torture, they wouldn’t put up with it for five minutes.

My hubby is perfectly happy with me in tennis shoes, sweatshirts and casual jeans, or whatever else I wish to wear. We don’t dictate each other’s wardrobes.

Another blessing to count.

 

[Sarcelle]

I went to a private school with a uniform similar to the one below. As you can see, the girls also wear ties.

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[JanR]

Actually, some sneakers can be very stylish and come in a variety of colors to match any outfit. Some even have bling on them. These are dressier sneakers, and can easily be worn with a dress, and fit right in. They aren’t the typical athletic shoes, they are designer sneakers. I’ve seen these in catalogs, and at Payless Shoe Store, believe it or not. Some really nice, dressy sneakers. I like the ones with velcro closures.

By the way, does anyone know that kids shoes can also be worn by women, if gotten in equivalent sizes? A sales lady at a shoe store clued me in on this. I take a size 7 or 7 1/2 womens shoe. I can also wear a 5 or 5 1/2 kids shoe, and it fits identically, with prettier colors and styles to choose from. And they don’t look kiddish on me, either.

 

[Irishmom2]

And the reasoning for that, which I totally support, I because it is a uniform. I like them.

I cannot stand uniforms codes not being enforced. Have them, or don’t, but if you have them, everyone should have to abide by the dress code. It’s a pet peeve of mine.

 

[Lea101]

Actually, some sneakers can be very stylish and come in a variety of colors to match any outfit. Some even have bling on them. These are dressier sneakers, and can easily be worn with a dress, and fit right in. They aren’t the typical athletic shoes, they are designer sneakers. I’ve seen these in catalogs, and at Payless Shoe Store, believe it or not. Some really nice, dressy sneakers. I like the ones with velcro closures.

I’ve seen some cushiony loafers and ‘dressy’ flats as well. But I understand the really comfortable support ‘ugly’ shoes tend to give.

By the way, does anyone know that kids shoes can also be worn by women, if gotten in equivalent sizes?

Noo it’s a sin! You’re tricking people into thinking you identify as a kid! (sarcasm, obviously). My sister wears kid shoes because it’s cheaper. My feet are too big for that

 

[JanR]

Actually, those fancier dress sneakers can be just as cushiony and supportive as the ugly support shoes. Most of them have built-in arch support. They can be so soft and cushiony you won’t even notice you’re wearing them, but they still support your feet. I have several pairs of those kind. They don’t look clunky, either.

 

[Jen95]

I once saw a woman walking around our zoo in high heeled shoes. I felt bad for her, and she looked really out of place, IMO.

 

[libbeylu]

Why must one ‘always present herself like a lady’? Who defines what sartorial selections are ladylike? What would constitute ladylike walking?

Answer: Hey, a lesson in etiquette is sometimes recommended…Being a “Lady” is important to some of us and, we feel like we want to dress, act, and present ourselves in a manner that defines being a “Lady”…

What does the reason you broke a heel have to do with anything? Why is it important for you to specify that you do not have a weight problem? Is it more ‘ladylike’ to break a heel due to wear and tear of a shoe than if the shoe broke and you happened to be overweight?

Answer: Oh, excuse me I was just making a joke out of it…lighten up!

Are you proposing that a woman who chooses to wear something that in your opinion is not feminine enough that it means the woman wasn’t mindful enough to be considered carefully curating her wardrobe?

Answer: NO! NO! and NO! Just making a statement about me…

Whilst taking care of our God given bodies is indeed necessary, is a woman who prefers more utilitarian outfits over your vision of feminine not ‘taking care of herself’?

Answer: NO! Again…To each their own…once again just stating my opinion…

Yes…outward beauty fades…fads come and go…there is a difference of the way a man and a woman dresses…Being a woman, I chose to wear women’s attire…I dress conservatively and am very modest in my selection of clothing. Oh, I no longer wear spiked heels cause I am older and don’t have a cane yet to balance myself…God’s Loves us all, regardless what we wear or how we look…Proud to be a woman! :tshirt:
libbeylu:

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I can’t believe that this is actually even an issue in 2020.

It’s not.

The menswear has been around for a long time,. But I’ve never seen a woman wearing a tie. But if someone wanted to wear one, go for it.

Men’s ties on women were popular around the time of “Annie Hall” and early new wave in the late 70s/ early 80s. They have occasionally popped up since then, usually in some kind of prep school fashion context.

 

[dochawk]

Yeah, maybe I need a bigger collar. Like Hank Hill, I seem to have somewhat of a fat neck.

Trust me, it makes all the difference int the world.

Yeah, it’s more expensive to buy a good, properly sized, shirt, and Mervyn’s (oops, dated myself!) doesn’t carry them, but it’s a night and day difference.

Outside of dress shirts, I’m an LT, tot L or XL. It’s the length of the XL, but with the torso width of an L. Another eye-opener when I could suddenly buy shirts that fit. (but if you need the top button done, it’s improbable to be the right thing . . )

. Surely such a style had to be designed my MEN who haven’t the slightest inkling of how uncomfortable those extreme points are for gals who (feel they) have to wear them.

Nah, it was deliberate revenge for neckties and starch!
:crazy_face:

This is why men like it.

overall, I think there’s far more pressure for high heels from women than from men . . .

Problem is, it not only destroys the feet but places tremendous strain on the lower back.

my aunt, as an RN, wore them exclusively to the point that her tendons shortened and she couldn’t wear flat shoes . . .

and if and ever one of my kids gets married, I think they’d be OK with me not wearing a tie to their wedding.

Not just “tie”, but “bow tie” in the tux you’ll be wearing . . . (and now that the nights have gone to the third world paratrooper uniform, I’m not sure when I’ll ever wear my tux again save for my other three daughter’s weddings and my own funeral . . .)

I’ll bet if the tables were reversed and the men had to wear that foot torture, they wouldn’t put up with it for five minutes.

actually, that’s ben scientifically demonstrated.

about 25 years ago, a group attempted to do a study of men and women wearing the wrong size of shoes.

They couldn’t find any men to form he sample, and were only able to study women . . .

I once saw a woman walking around our zoo in high heeled shoes. I felt bad for her, and she looked really out of place, IMO.

the day Disneyland opened, they actually had a problem with women’s heels sinking into the asphalt, as it was. a hot day and had been recently poured!

 

[Peeps]

I’ve had three foot surgeries. I’m pretty much relegated to sneakers/trainers for the support and cushioning they give. This leaves me with a dilemma when wearing a dress! Do I wear sneakers and look ridiculous but pain free or wear a dress shoe and within twenty minutes be in excruciating pain. I’m embarrassed to say that the dress shoes usually win and the minute I’m back in my car, they come off.

This is my situation, too. The surgeries have deformed my right foot so that wearing a “normal” “dress” shoe is very painful unless they are a size or two bigger than my real size.

Now that Payless stores have closed, I simply can’t find “dress” shoes in my size, and I simply refuse to spend a lot of money on something that I never wear. Payless carried shoes up through size 12 for women!

Before Payless went bankrupt, I found a pair of slip-on sneakers that look nice if not dressy, and I wear these with the two "casual"dresses that I own, and also with my dressy black slacks and tops that I wear to play piano/organ.

I wear “'organ shoes” (mens’) to play organ.

I WISH PAYLESS WOULD COME BACK!!! I heard that they are coming back in a different way, and I hope they still carry the same cheap, large variety of shoes.

I think that one reason why many people do not take walks for exercise, or do any kind of physical activity, is that they cannot find comfortable shoes that fit and that allow them to wear their prescribed orthotics. Too bad.

 

[DeniseNY]

overall, I think there’s far more pressure for high heels from women than from men . .

Yes, especially when a woman is already tall. I’m almost 5’9, and men didn’t particularly like when I wore heels if it made me appear taller than they are.