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Kaninchen
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I suppose it’s the ‘old men passing on the to young men the tradition of stalking and harassing women’ as institutionalised fetishism that is so blatant in places like Saudi.
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didymus
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Men are weak. The first words out of Adam’s mouth were, “Eve made me do it” (paraphrasing).
Even when I was a kid my reaction was “what a tattletale!”
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Santi2
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severus68
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It has become a culture in Saudi and is passed off as Islamic.
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PerfectTiming
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Yes, I used to hear the same thing from non-Saudi Arab Muslims all the time.
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kelvinf
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GaryTaylor
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Islam will be doing it right “here” at some point if Obama is allowed to play with the 1st Ammendment. The Freedom of Speech of this administration is only considered when it favors their agenda. Religious Freedom has been a constant with Obama in favor of respecting Islamic Law in regards to “blasphemy” against the prophet. Which has already caused Islam to test the waters in America with Sharia Law.
Look at the issues arrising in Europe with International Law already.
OBAMA’S CLASSMATE SPEAKS!
By Wayne Allyn Root , June 6th, 2010
“I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.”
create systemic failure,
economic crisis and social chaos –
thereby destroying capitalism and
our country from within.
( Columbia University , class of ’83).
He is a devout Muslim, do not be fooled.
As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussein Obama is
following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University .
They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system
with government spending and entitlement demands.
It is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn
the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority
that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted and controlled to vote for bigger government.
They have no responsibility to pay for it.
Universal Health Care . The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and
health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents
(who will join government employee unions).
Obama doesn’t care that giving free health care will add trillions to the national debt.
What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of these voters to Democrats and big government
Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill
in the middle of a depression?
Obama’s own words…“I didn’t become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college.”
Obama has appointmented Azizah al-Hibri to the Commission on International Religious Freedom. Al-Hibri is a Muslim professor and the granddaughter of a Sheikh, who claims that the Koran inspired Thomas Jefferson and the Founders and that the Saudi criminal justice system is more moral than the American one because it accepts blood money from murderers.
Al-Hibri is often billed as a Muslim feminist, but she is equally hypocritical on women’s rights. Rather than conceding that Islamic law discriminates against women, she whitewashes its discriminatory treatment of women, arguing that guardianship is meant to protect “inexperienced women”. Rather than trying to bring Islam in line with the modern world, Azizah Al-Hibri pushes for the modern world to be brought in line with Islam. Rather than reforming Islam, it is America that she would like to reform to Islamic standards.
Azizah Al-Hibri’s feminist credentials rest heavily on Karamah, an organization of Muslim women lawyers, primarily funded by her brother Ibrahim El-Hibri and nephew Fuad El-Hibri’s “El-Hibri Charitable Foundation”. The El-Hibri clan are a curious footnote in the War on Terror. Ibrahim El-Hibri had made a fortune doing business with Saudi Arabia. His company dominates the manufacture of the anthrax vaccine and suspicions have been raised by the Wall Street Journal about leaks from their company into the hands of terrorists. Regardless of all that, there is something ironic in Azizah Al-Hibri’s feminist organization being funded by her brother’s charitable trust with a board of trustees that includes two male members of the family, but not her.
Another donor to Karamah was Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of the famously progressive Saudi royal family. A kingdom well known for promoting feminism and women’s rights, which no doubt in between banning women from driving cars and distributing such feminist tracts as “Women Who Deserve To Go To Hell” funds organizations that empower women. Rather than organizations that put a faux feminist face on the Islamic repression of women.
Before Clinton’s impeachment proceedings, she wrote an article discussing how a sitting President of the United States might be tried under Islamic law.
“Had the President been testifying in an Islamic court, he would not have been placed in this terrible predicament in the first instance,” Al-Hibri wrote. As an added bonus, to Bill, she added that under Islamic law, it would be his accusers “would be punished for committing the crime of qathf”. In a further reminder of the Islamic commitment to freedom of speech; “Others who violated his privacy and broadcast his behavior are guilty and, if not repentant, are punishable.” We can only guess if this involved stoning Matt Drudge.
Al-Hibri went on to point out that four witnesses to the crime were lacking. The same law that makes it so easy for gang rapists to accuse their victim of adultery, while leaving her helpless to defend against the charges. Then she wrote, “Coming from a religious background, the President may have understood the religious significance of penetration and hence avoided it.”
Al-Hibri doesn’t acknowledge that adultery is a crime punishable by death or vicious corporal punishment in much of the Muslim world. Instead she used a congressional investigation into presidential malfeasance to misrepresent Islamic law, which lashes or stones adulterers to death, as a more liberal code.
What can such a woman offer to the cause of international religious freedom? Ask Bill and Barrack!
“Frontpage Magazine by Daniel Greenfield” Coptic Solidarity
Look at the issues arrising in Europe with International Law already.
OBAMA’S CLASSMATE SPEAKS!
By Wayne Allyn Root , June 6th, 2010
“I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.”
- President Jefferson
create systemic failure,
economic crisis and social chaos –
thereby destroying capitalism and
our country from within.
( Columbia University , class of ’83).
He is a devout Muslim, do not be fooled.
As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussein Obama is
following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University .
They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system
with government spending and entitlement demands.
It is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn
the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority
that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted and controlled to vote for bigger government.
They have no responsibility to pay for it.
Universal Health Care . The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and
health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents
(who will join government employee unions).
Obama doesn’t care that giving free health care will add trillions to the national debt.
What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of these voters to Democrats and big government
Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill
in the middle of a depression?
Obama’s own words…“I didn’t become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college.”
Obama has appointmented Azizah al-Hibri to the Commission on International Religious Freedom. Al-Hibri is a Muslim professor and the granddaughter of a Sheikh, who claims that the Koran inspired Thomas Jefferson and the Founders and that the Saudi criminal justice system is more moral than the American one because it accepts blood money from murderers.
Al-Hibri is often billed as a Muslim feminist, but she is equally hypocritical on women’s rights. Rather than conceding that Islamic law discriminates against women, she whitewashes its discriminatory treatment of women, arguing that guardianship is meant to protect “inexperienced women”. Rather than trying to bring Islam in line with the modern world, Azizah Al-Hibri pushes for the modern world to be brought in line with Islam. Rather than reforming Islam, it is America that she would like to reform to Islamic standards.
Azizah Al-Hibri’s feminist credentials rest heavily on Karamah, an organization of Muslim women lawyers, primarily funded by her brother Ibrahim El-Hibri and nephew Fuad El-Hibri’s “El-Hibri Charitable Foundation”. The El-Hibri clan are a curious footnote in the War on Terror. Ibrahim El-Hibri had made a fortune doing business with Saudi Arabia. His company dominates the manufacture of the anthrax vaccine and suspicions have been raised by the Wall Street Journal about leaks from their company into the hands of terrorists. Regardless of all that, there is something ironic in Azizah Al-Hibri’s feminist organization being funded by her brother’s charitable trust with a board of trustees that includes two male members of the family, but not her.
Another donor to Karamah was Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of the famously progressive Saudi royal family. A kingdom well known for promoting feminism and women’s rights, which no doubt in between banning women from driving cars and distributing such feminist tracts as “Women Who Deserve To Go To Hell” funds organizations that empower women. Rather than organizations that put a faux feminist face on the Islamic repression of women.
Before Clinton’s impeachment proceedings, she wrote an article discussing how a sitting President of the United States might be tried under Islamic law.
“Had the President been testifying in an Islamic court, he would not have been placed in this terrible predicament in the first instance,” Al-Hibri wrote. As an added bonus, to Bill, she added that under Islamic law, it would be his accusers “would be punished for committing the crime of qathf”. In a further reminder of the Islamic commitment to freedom of speech; “Others who violated his privacy and broadcast his behavior are guilty and, if not repentant, are punishable.” We can only guess if this involved stoning Matt Drudge.
Al-Hibri went on to point out that four witnesses to the crime were lacking. The same law that makes it so easy for gang rapists to accuse their victim of adultery, while leaving her helpless to defend against the charges. Then she wrote, “Coming from a religious background, the President may have understood the religious significance of penetration and hence avoided it.”
Al-Hibri doesn’t acknowledge that adultery is a crime punishable by death or vicious corporal punishment in much of the Muslim world. Instead she used a congressional investigation into presidential malfeasance to misrepresent Islamic law, which lashes or stones adulterers to death, as a more liberal code.
What can such a woman offer to the cause of international religious freedom? Ask Bill and Barrack!
“Frontpage Magazine by Daniel Greenfield” Coptic Solidarity
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He_Man
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You are posting as though you want someone (presumably a man?) to justify the foolish practices of some false religion. You probably need to go try on wahhabianswers.com, because I doubt anyone here is going to defend the stupid things done by the Muslims.
This is what happens when you follow a bogus religion (which by definition, is a tool for Satan since its puts you on the wrong path). I am never surprised by the ridiculous garbage endorsed by the proponents of Islam. The Fringe elements of the Catholic Church push for things like women’s ordination (which is bad enough). The fringe elements of Islam push for women to have their heads forcibly removed. Truly, the will of God…
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CatholicBoy1957
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Darryl1958
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Dark Ages in Europe never beat women with clubs for showing a little skin.I seen the film’s Hillary Clinton released with the women in Afghanistan’s Taliban areas. Wow, they were beating them with clubs for their hands showing. Then they showed one of those circle stonings.
If it was any worse they’d be competing with the dark ages.
This is beyond any comparison with Westboro Church even. Threads on modesty at CAF don’t even compare.
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bz5
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Thankfulness
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Thanks, no,
merely pointing out that if one finger is pointing forward with blame, three other fingers are pointing back at the person extending the blame.
Just pointing out the underlying truth, that in treating the women as they do, it is themselves that they are revealing as the ones who have true need of spiritual and cultural conversion. It is they who show what an impoverished regard they have for men.
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Darryl1958
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AngryAtheist8
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Sigh.
More Obama is a secret Muslim/non-Citizen nonsense
Do you have any proof for any of this?
Beyond ridiculously biased right-wing sources?
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qui_est_ce
Guest
Obama is not a Muslim. None of his values are acceptable Islam practices.Sigh.
More Obama is a secret Muslim/non-Citizen nonsense
Do you have any proof for any of this?
Beyond ridiculously biased right-wing sources?
- He has a dog
- He is pro-abortion
- He is pro same sex marriage
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CatholicBoy1957
Guest
It shouldn’t be difficult to cover eyes in Saudi Arabia. Their laws are not like ours, are they? I mean, are they not already pretty much there anyway? Our society would have difficulty adjusting to a law such as covering eyes.
Isn’t it part of the subterfuge, to conceal Muslim identity, by temporarily suspending rules? For example, did the WTC pilots not shave, in order to carry out their mission?
I thought some of them already use it.
Isn’t it part of the subterfuge, to conceal Muslim identity, by temporarily suspending rules? For example, did the WTC pilots not shave, in order to carry out their mission?
Thank you for the article, Gary. I printed it out to share with my friends.
I thought some of them already use it.
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He_Man
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You’ll get no argument from me. Poor treatment of women and mysogyny are just two of the many problems with Islam. You’re beef should be with the warped religion, not men or women.
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Darryl1958
Guest
Most certainly. The response to mysogyny really ought not to be misandry.
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LemonAndLime
Guest
Not strictly true. I grew up with Muslim friends and work with Muslims, and I can assure you that the attitudes towards women are cultural.
For example, there is nothing in the Qur’an which says that women must cover up like that. Therefore it is culture, not religion.
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PerfectTiming
Guest
From friends I have who have read the Qur’an, it says that women must be modest. But so does our Bible. The extent to which they cover is cultural.
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