60% of US states are reporting increases in new cases

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I think it is still questionable if the masks really help. Our city mandated the
wearing of mass last Saturday even though our cases and deaths were decreasing.

I don’t like wearing my mask. It is uncomfortable and as an asthma sufferer,
I feel like I can’t breathe well. However, it is the law and I do wear it in public places.
 
If you followed the history, you’d find that the NBA had a lot to do with it.
 
This is why I often get baffled when those screaming the loudest to get back to work/open up, also tend to refuse to wear masks.(not pointing a finger at you specifically). It makes no sense!
If you have no symptoms, then wearing a mask has no benefit (and there are those who suggest that wearing a mask for prolonged periods has a negative health impact on the wearer). The masks that most people are using aren’t able to stop the virus particles in your breath - the intent is for them to catch larger liquid particles when you cough or sneeze. If you are not coughing then the mask does no good. If you are coughing you should not be out in public.
 

CHICAGO — Younger people are making up a growing percentage of new coronavirus cases in cities and states where the virus is now surging, a trend that has alarmed public health officials and prompted renewed pleas for masks and social distancing.

In Arizona, where drive-up sites are overwhelmed by people seeking coronavirus tests, people ages 20 to 44 account for nearly half of all cases. In Florida, which breaks records for new cases nearly every day, the median age of residents testing positive for the virus has dropped to 35, down from 65 in March.

And in Texas, where the governor paused the reopening process on Thursday as hospitals grow increasingly crowded, young people now account for the majority of new cases in several urban centers. In Cameron County, which includes Brownsville and the tourist town of South Padre Island, people under 40 make up more than half of newly reported cases.
 
people under 40 make up more than half of newly reported cases.
I think that is to be expected - older people are highly encouraged to stay at home. In my diocese, you are not allowed to assist in the Mass in any way (usher, lector, etc.) if you are over 60.
 
I think that is to be expected - older people are highly encouraged to stay at home. In my diocese, you are not allowed to assist in the Mass in any way (usher, lector, etc.) if you are over 60.
In the Arlington diocese people 60 and over are still dispensed.

I posted this because it runs counter to the narrative. It could be that the younger people are more likely to be out and about, and are therefore getting infected more. That’s a very good insight.

But, it’s also very troubling - the people who are out and about have surging nfection rates.
 
I posted this because it runs counter to the narrative.
Narratives are political tools, and unfortunately the response to this crisis is much more about politics than health and safety.
But, it’s also very troubling - the people who are out and about have surging nfection rates.
The purpose of the lock down was not to eradicate the virus; it’s purpose was to slow down the demand on hospitals. We have implemented social distancing and quarantine, and have seen lower rates of hospitalization that originally estimated. We should expect a huge increase in the number of people infected before this is over (if it will be over, or just become a part of life remains to be seen).
 
News Flash - most of us will most likely get it, not know it or have mild symptoms.

The virus was here way before they knew and infecting well before any lockdowns.
 
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Younger people are making up a growing percentage of new coronavirus cases in cities and states where the virus is now surging,
This explains why cases are rising, but not deaths in tandem.
But, it’s also very troubling - the people who are out and about have surging nfection rates.
Yes, the young are active and likely not wearing masks. I believe the recent protests/riots are the driver for this increase.
Looking at the number of new cases in Europe vs. the US, I think we Americans might want to get used to the idea that we are quickly becoming a backwater country
No, not if you are numerate and apply common statistics to the appropriate data. Eight countries in Europe have higher death rates, most are significantly higher. Looking at daily fluctuations in cases is just noise, it’s meaningless (and driven by testing strategies). Death statistics are much more reliable for cross country comparison of the virus impact.

**Deaths/ 1M pop ranking (I ignored city states)**
  1. Belgium
  2. UK
  3. Spain
  4. Italy
  5. Sweden
  6. France
  7. USA
  8. Netherlands
 
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Well, we’ll just have to give this a few more weeks because the number of cases in Europe is way down and the US is setting records. But it’s good to see that we are behind two countries that got caught with their pants down (Italy and Spain) and several that butchered the response (UK, Sweden and Belgium). So much for American exceptionalism.
Italy and Spain are both predominantly catholic and the people follow an unhealty custom of kissing the feet of the statues of saints, thereby allowing the spread of the virus more “freely”.
 
News Flash - most of us will most likely get it, not know it or have mild symptoms.

The virus was here way before they knew and infecting well before any lockdowns.
That’s the major problem. Many will have it, not know it but don’t wear a mask and so can pass it on to others.
Anyone not prepared to wear a mask is basically saying I don’t care if I infect others, even if it is my loved ones.
 
That’s the major problem. Many will have it, not know it but don’t wear a mask and so can pass it on to others.
Anyone not prepared to wear a mask is basically saying I don’t care if I infect others, even if it is my loved ones.
Asymptomatic transfer is very rare says WHO. Millions have already had it. Why d they have to wear a mask?
 
Asymptomatic transfer is very rare says WHO. Millions have already had it. Why d they have to wear a mask?
And we know WHO got everything right!!!
Listen to Dr Fauci and all the other medical experts. Wearing a mask is proven to reduce the risk of spreading.
People who refuse to wear masks are dangerous people who don’t care about others.
 
That had nothing to do with the spread of Covid-19. There is a lot kissing of the cheeks in greeting however.

One of the reasons Spain got hit hard was because of the Spaniards linked to a football match that took place in Bergamo, Italy, which was one of the hardest hit areas in the North.

And Italy, apart from the Chinese tourists that visit has many Chinese migrant workers living in the industrial North.
 
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I can’t help but feel there is a certain group that wants the positive cases to increase as well as the number of deaths.
Do you mean the group that last month told us that the economy needed to reopen and “vulnerable” people such as the aged and infirm should just stay home? Because that is exactly what happened. Young people heard the message and turned out in droves and are now driving the spikes in infection rates in TX, FL, and other states.

And it’s true that they don’t die as frequently from it. But it turns out that a considerable number of them still need hospitalization because that rate has spiked so badly that AZ is running out of ICU beds. If that happens, it won’t only affect Covid-19 patients but any patient needing a bed.

So yeah, I don’t know what that group had to gain from telling young people and able-bodied to go out except to score economic points. A pyrrhic victory.
 
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Wearing a mask is proven to reduce the risk of spreading.
Show me the studies
Really??? Have you got your head so stuck in the sand that you have not heard Dr Fauci and all the medical experts repeatedly tell you this or are you simply a denier like Trump and his administration. Also isolation did not lead to more cases.
Everything you have said about the virus is nonsense.
 
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That’s the major problem. Many will have it, not know it but don’t wear a mask and so can pass it on to others.
Anyone not prepared to wear a mask is basically saying I don’t care if I infect others, even if it is my loved ones.
Asymptomatic transfer is very rare says WHO. Millions have already had it. Why d they have to wear a mask?
According to a recent article:
Compared to most other viral infections, SARS-CoV-2 produces an unusually high level of viral particles in the upper respiratory tractspecifically the nose and mouth. When those viral particles escape into the environment, that is called viral shedding.

Researchers have found that pre-symptomatic people shed the virus at an extremely high rate, similar to the seasonal flu. But people with the flu don’t normally shed virus until they have symptoms.

A study looking at outbreaks in Ningbo, China, found that people without symptoms spread the virus as easily as those with symptoms.

If half of all infected people are without symptoms at any point in time, and those people can transmit SARS-CoV-2 as easily as symptomatic patients, it is safe to assume a huge percentage of spread comes from people without symptoms.

Even without knowing the exact numbers, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that transmission from people without symptoms is a major contributor to the rapid spread of SARS-CoV-2 around the world.
 
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