Abortion Doctor Geroge Tiller Murdered this morning

[Muzhik]

I wonder if he’s going to become the “Ernst vom Rath” of the pro-abortion movement.

In early November 1938 Germany expelled all Polish Jews from the Reich. Many, including those who had given up Polish citizenship, were refused admittance into Poland and were held at refugee camps along the border. Conditions were very bad there. Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old Polish Jew living in Paris, was so upset at the treatment of his parents at their refugee camp, he took a pistol to the German embassy in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, the embassy official assigned to help him. Vom Rath died two days later, on the anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Nazi officials used this as an excuse to rouse up the people against the evils of “World Jewry”, and the result was Kristallnacht. So many shop windows (owned by Jewish shop owners) were broken the streets glittered like crystal, ergo the name. Over 200 synagogues were destroyed too. The Reichs ministers blamed it on the natural outpouring of German anger over the assassination of vom Rath.

The insurance claims on the vandalized shops threatened to bankrupt the German insurance industry, so the German government fined the Jewish community for the damage and started working on a “final solution” for the Jewish Problem.

The next few days will be interesting…

 

[Beau_Ouiville]

When you call this a “terroristic” killing you are acting like the Federal government when they label pro-lifers, vets, pro-2nd amendment people etc terrorists.

I think the government memorandum dealt more with acts than groups. And that seems appropriate for the tragic incident this morning – instead of wondering about group culpability people should deal with the act which occurred.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

I wonder if he’s going to become the “Ernst vom Rath” of the pro-abortion movement.

In early November 1938 Germany expelled all Polish Jews from the Reich. Many, including those who had given up Polish citizenship, were refused admittance into Poland and were held at refugee camps along the border. Conditions were very bad there. Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old Polish Jew living in Paris, was so upset at the treatment of his parents at their refugee camp, he took a pistol to the German embassy in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, the embassy official assigned to help him. Vom Rath died two days later, on the anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Nazi officials used this as an excuse to rouse up the people against the evils of “World Jewry”, and the result was Kristallnacht. So many shop windows (owned by Jewish shop owners) were broken the streets glittered like crystal, ergo the name. Over 200 synagogues were destroyed too. The Reichs ministers blamed it on the natural outpouring of German anger over the assassination of vom Rath.

The insurance claims on the vandalized shops threatened to bankrupt the German insurance industry, so the German government fined the Jewish community for the damage and started working on a “final solution” for the Jewish Problem.

The next few days will be interesting…

very apt reference. it is well known that this adminastration has no love for Catholics and will use this oppurtinity to do whatever they can get away with.

 

[DeoSalvatoreMeo]

I think the government memorandum dealt more with acts than groups. And that seems appropriate for the tragic incident this morning – instead of wondering about group culpability people should deal with the act which occurred.

There were many tragic incidents at Tiller’s abortion clinics. Let’s keep that in mind. Certainly, vigilante justice is never the answer. But speaking of culpability, how about the culpability for performing illegal late-term abortions? Tiller was believed to be about to have his medical license revoked for performing at least 19 illegal late-term abortions. It’s unfortunate he wasn’t put out of business using the legal system. Let’s not forget that this man killed thousands of unborn children. It seems almost as though you are going into martyr-mode here for someone that did some very evil things.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

. It seems almost as though you are going into martyr-mode here for someone that did some very evil things.

behold the future. tiller and his succesor will be heros just because they comitt murder at rates that’d make the nazis blush.

 

[Ridgerunner]

What do you mean by that? As far as I know, the pro-choice forces have simply advocated for pro-Roe Supremes just as the anti-abortion side has advocated for anti-Roe Supremes. The pro-choice forces have funds raised and supported pro-Roe pols just as the anti-abortion side has supported anti-Roe pols. What’s wrong with that? That’s the way the game works.

Shooting people, on the other hand, is not the way the game works.

Peradventure you will recall I said I don’t condone murder. So lay that one aside.

Abortion is not a “game”. Being prolife is not a “game”. This is about life and death for millions of innocents. It is not “politics as usual” as the pro-abortion people want us to think; as if it was all about something like building a new dam in Tennessee. When I said what I said, I was simply conveying that it does not require the killing of Tiller to make this government and its supporters maximize their efforts to enshrine the Culture of Death. When your throttle is floored, you can’t get more power going by pushing harder. Everytime any kind of event happens that can be made into a propaganda gain by the Culture of Death folks, they’ll use it. If one doesn’t happen on its own, they have no problem inventing one. Consequently, in my opinion, those who fear that the killing of Tiller will somehow greatly prejudice the prolife cause, needn’t fear it so greatly.

 

[fosio]

I am appalled that some antiabortion people here consider this act of murder and terrorism to be a form of “justice.” This terrorism and murder was not justice in any sense of the word and must be categorically condemned.

I also urge antiabortion people to refrain from using inflammatory language in the choice debate. Referring to abortion as “murder” or the situation of abortion as a “holocaust” is possibly IMO partly responsible for creating the culturally extremist climate that leads to tragedies and acts of murder and terrorism such as by this antiabortion person.

 

[slyboots]

May God have mercy on his soul and the soul of the killer. This is so wrong in so many ways.
Abortion is murder whether people want to call it that or not. But murder of any human is wrong.

 

[a_cermak]

Abortion is not a “game”. Being prolife is not a “game”. This is about life and death for millions of innocents. It is not “politics as usual” as the pro-abortion people want us to think; as if it was all about something like building a new dam in Tennessee.

Yes, it is. It’s the game of politics and our political process. It IS politics as usual. It’s how we determine messy political issues in this nation.

I’m an alder-critter. All of city politics is a game. I know it, my political opponents know it. Our supporters know it. Each side has a position–stakes it out–argues their side–supports those who support their side. It’s the way we have determined that our system should work.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I am appalled that some antiabortion people here consider this act of murder and terrorism to be a form of “justice.” This terrorism and murder was not justice in any sense of the word and must be categorically condemned.

I also urge antiabortion people to refrain from using inflammatory language in the choice debate. Referring to abortion as “murder” or the situation of abortion as a “holocaust” is possibly IMO partly responsible for creating the culturally extremist climate that leads to tragedies and acts of murder and terrorism such as by this antiabortion person.

In other words, you’re saying that perfectly peaceful prolife people are responsible for the killing of Tiller by telling the truth about what abortion really is.

This, of course, is what prolife people expect from those who embrace the Culture of Death. Reading the prolife posts above, it seems you have confirmed what they believed.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

I also urge antiabortion people to refrain from using inflammatory language in the choice debate. Referring to abortion as “murder” or the situation of abortion as a “holocaust” .

murder-the premediated taking of an innocent life. sounds like abortion to me.

the holocaust-killed what 12-15million people? abortion has killed over 1 billion worldwide in the last 35 years. if anything it seems inflamatory to refer to anything besides abortion as a holocaust.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

Yes, it is. It’s the game of politics and our political process. It IS politics as usual. It’s how we determine messy political issues in this nation.

so the holocaust in nazi germany was just politics? the genocide of darfur is just politics? abortion has killed countless millions more than either of those. abortion is a war for our very souls. to treat it as a game is an insult to the billion dead babies.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Yes, it is. It’s the game of politics and our political process. It IS politics as usual. It’s how we determine messy political issues in this nation.

I’m an alder-critter. All of city politics is a game. I know it, my political opponents know it. Our supporters know it. Each side has a position–stakes it out–argues their side–supports those who support their side. It’s the way we have determined that our system should work.

By this reasoning, the Nazi holocaust was a “game”. I choose not to think of it as a “game”, and I choose not to think of the abortion issue as a “game”, any more than I consider the killing of Tiller a “game”. It’s killing, and killing is not a “game”.

 

[BareKnuckler]

Sad, I hope they catch his killer and he is put to justice.

 

[jay29]

I don’t know which is worse: Getting shot a few times and dying or getting my head bashed in and having my brains sucked out with a vacuum and then dying. Me thinks he got off easy for all the carnage he caused.

 

[MrS]

I am appalled that some antiabortion people here consider this act of murder and terrorism to be a form of “justice.” This terrorism and murder was not justice in any sense of the word and must be categorically condemned.

I also urge antiabortion people to refrain from using inflammatory language in the choice debate. Referring to abortion as “murder” or the situation of abortion as a “holocaust” is possibly IMO partly responsible for creating the culturally extremist climate that leads to tragedies and acts of murder and terrorism such as by this antiabortion person.

Since you are new to this forum, please take this advice as sincere and friendly… Please remove the title Christian. It is going to cause you grief every time you claim to be a Christian, and then say anything that hints of a separation between abortion and pre-mediated murder.

Or, at the very least, admit you might not know what abortion is or when life begins.

Thank you.

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[BareKnuckler]

I don’t know which is worse: Getting shot a few times and dying or getting my head bashed in and having my brains sucked out with a vacuum and then dying. Me thinks he got off easy for all the carnage he caused.

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[rlg94086]

I am appalled that some antiabortion people here consider this act of murder and terrorism to be a form of “justice.” This terrorism and murder was not justice in any sense of the word and must be categorically condemned.

I also urge antiabortion people to refrain from using inflammatory language in the choice debate. Referring to abortion as “murder” or the situation of abortion as a “holocaust” is possibly IMO partly responsible for creating the culturally extremist climate that leads to tragedies and acts of murder and terrorism such as by this antiabortion person.

I agree that no one should consider the murder of Dr. Tiller as a form of “justice.” I don’t really care if people call it a terrorist act or not, but it was definitely vigilante justice. I don’t support it in the least.

Regarding “inflammatory language.” Murder is an appropriate term to apply to abortion, since it is the purposeful taking of an innocent life. I’m sorry if you find it offensive. I find the pro-abortion groups use of the term “choice” offensive, since we don’t condone being “pro-choice” in things like slavery or genocide.

Regardless, I wouldn’t have condoned the murder of a slaveholder when it was legal. If he was in the middle of beating a slave to death in front of me, I would have killed him to prevent his acts, but I wouldn’t have shot him at his church.

 

[DeoSalvatoreMeo]

Sad, I hope they catch his killer and he is put to justice.

It’s really sad how violence perpetuates violence, i.e. violence on the unborn perpetuated a violent act on the abortionist. Abortion: what a terrible web we weave. In Buddhism, I believe this is called Kamma Niyama.

 

[jay29]

It’s really sad how violence perpetuates violence, i.e. violence on the unborn perpetuated a violent act on the abortionist. Abortion: what a terrible web we weave.

+1 Just like that big abortion clinic owner who’s plane crashed into the Catholic Cemetery near the grave of aborted babies and now this doctor (Josef Mengele wannabe) who got off easy for his crimes against humanity.

1.) What goes around, comes around.
2.) You live by the sword, you will die by the sword.