Amazon Synod and Pagan Rituals

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We aren’t talking about Anthropology, we’re talking about paganism. Don’t try to change the subject.

And sorry to say it, but yes. You are clearly biased. You don’t even want to listen to the Amazonian chief and what he has to say because LifesiteNews is the only place that would actually listen to him.

And yes, pachamama. It translates to Mother Earth. The same earth these pagans are worshiping. Just like the Santeria cults, even if it incorporates catholic saints, it doesn’t change the fact that the practice and rituals are not christian.

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Imagine if Saint Boniface enabled the germanic pagans to continue their idolatry. Europe would never have been christianized like it did.
 
Excuse me…and what do you think Bishops and priests there have been doing for years and years?
Or why do you think they know the issues they have to deal with in this Synod?
Would you please be honest and say that until this Synod these people in Amazonia weren’t even on the radar of so many posters here now clutching their pearls?Not their concerns not their problems, and sometimes not even geographically speaking where it is…
Are you aware that in Xingu for example the people in remote areas could only receive Communion once eventually twice a year?
 
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graciew said:
Excuse me…and what do you think Bishops and priests there have been doing for years and years?
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Apparently not a very good job. It doesn’t help that organizations linked to the Brazilian Bishops conference has been enabling these people, even in their traditions of infanticide.

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Would you please be honest and say that until this Synod these people in Amazonia weren’t even on the radar
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Yes, I’ll admit it. I had no idea paganism was still being practiced in the Amazon, but the Vatican did. Just because I and many others never knew about them (the Amazonians) doesn’t excuse the fact that they are committing idolatry and need to stop. The fact still remains, there are those in the Church that have been unfortunately enabling these people. As the Amazonian leader in the previous video I posted said, those people are liberation theologists (aka Marxists). I feel saddened that these Amazonian people are being abused by people that are supoosed to be helping them. The people our LORD Jesus Christ tasked to free them from their idolatry are instead enabling them and bastardizing the faith.
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Are you aware that in Xingu for example the people in remote areas could only receive Communion once eventually twice a year?
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I’ve heard about it. It sucks. My heart goes out to them. Maybe the Vatican should put more preists in the Amazon or focus on getting men into seminary. They could easily have done this if they weren’t enabling these abused Amazonians in their idolatry.
 
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We aren’t talking about Anthropology, we’re talking about paganism. Don’t try to change the subject.
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In fact we are talking about anthropology as the latest documents from the Vatican prove.

You only joined 4 days ago, and there’s been a deluge of false accounts on CAF.

So, it’s simple for anyone to see the sophistry in you line of reasoning.
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Yes, I’ll admit it. I had no idea paganism was still being practiced in the Amazon
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Says it all.
 
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So because I’m new suddenly my posts don’t matter? Wow what a welcoming community people like you are fostering. If you don’t want to debate in good faith fine, but dont claim to care about the plight of the Amazonian people if you can’t even listen to one of their leaders on what they have to face. I’ll pray for you.
 
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The beauty of the Amazon has nothing to do with the pagans in it and their idolatry. It’s concerning how little you care about their salvation. Just like how Israel didn’t care about the people they enabled in their idolatry in Ezekiel and Jeremiah.
 
God praise the Amazon Synod, May the Holy Spirit guide its progress.

Prayers for Holy Father Pope Francis
 
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Best to do research as this will be off topic for this thread.
 
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Going in like the old time colonists forcing a foreign ideal onto an ancient people is actually not Christs wa
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No what we are saying is don’t be pagans.
The paganism of this is loud and clear.
Pagan artifacts on a rainbow blanket that were brought into a Catholic church the night after.
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Martyrs of the Amazon are shown in those artefacts.
God praise the Amazon Synod, May the Holy Spirit guide its progress.

Prayers for Holy Father Pope Francis
 
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God praise the Amazon Synod, May the Holy Spirit guide its progress.

Prayers for Holy Father Pope Francis
 
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Displayed this week in a vatican chapel;
Women nursing beasts…
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hey @(name removed by moderator) I’ve been researching this for a few days (I haven’t had much time) so I’ll give 1 response latter today -with the best sources currently available. You’ll be surprised at some of the findings. I’ll also invite some of the most knowledgeable CAF’ers who participated in the thread to give their critique on my analyses.

I understand you find this unsettling (I know you are a good catholic), but believe me: not all is as it seems. (You will be surprised at what really happened.)
 
However remember when AB Vigano secretly arranged for Kim Davis to meet the Pope in the USA, which ultimately had him dragged over the coals afterwards. There are many people who are deeply invested in undermining Pope Francis on the inside.
 
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Has anyone read Windswept House?
The similarities are astounding.

A ritual to begin a council or synod sets the tone and codifies spiritual realities which will guide the synod and the resulting fallout.

What will be the long term fallout of a synod which begins with a pagan ritual performed on Vatican grounds where St Peter was crucified?

Were the organizers not only aware that it was a pagan ritual, but what was their purpose in planning it?
 
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That really doesn’t happen too much, as most of the time they will teach something that some find objectionable at least at that time they remain in what is theologically possible. I would say that first one should consider if what they are teaching is still within the limits of orthodoxy, that is, no doctrine has been directly contradicted. Then I would try and understand what they are presenting whether you agree or not. At least understand that viewpoint.
 
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