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Didn’t the heresy of the Manichaeans extend quite a bit beyond the refusal to receive the sacraments from married priests?
Yes it did. But I’m just pointing out that Synods are purposed for the very issues that are facing the global Church in each era. We’ve always been ‘synodal’. It has never been that a Pope has ruled like a dictator. The Church believes in listening to ordinary people with extraordinary problems to see what comes from it. One of the reasons that the Jews would not accept Jesus is that He was just a simple carpenter from a small town.Didn’t the heresy of the Manichaeans extend quite a bit beyond the refusal to receive the sacraments from married priests?
In your case it’s rhetoric. (and some political controversy?)That is not bigotry.
There’s more to it than that. Formation centers established by the church are open to the community they serve with some due exceptions in content. Historically in times of religious persecution there were instances of Jewish religious services being held in catholic churches, same for gatherings of all kinds.criticism of a document calling on the church to establish formation centers which teach indigenous religions
So calling others bigots is uncharitable in and of itself. Please understand that what I was saying was we need to go in to this area and help them and bring them physical aid yes, but absolutely bring them Christ.Jesus didn’t say:“bring him Me”, as I’m sure the priest and the Levite went on their way to preach), I’m shocked with the amount of bigotry on this thread.
So calling others a bigot is pretty uncharitable in and of itself.
Isto diz tudo.Not one of the critics noticed how they made the sign of the cross in front of the Holy Father. Gently , slowly and respectfully. Nobody. But searched for genitals in rain sticks…
É verdade.Too much for today…
No I can’t agree. Cicero spoke from basic common sense as has Plato and Aristotle as it happens. Enlightened by pagans is not what agreeing with Cicero’s common sense and intellect means. Being seduced by demonic idolatry is what agreeing a pagan ritual is ok isAnd what we receive from the pagans in the Amazon may be as enlightening as Cicero or Aristotle. We do not know yet because we have not been enlightened by it. This has always been the Catholic way, to reach out to others to teach them and to learn from them, trusting the Lord to guide us.
Numbers don’t count. Orthodoxy does. Athanasius stood alone.That is very offensive to virtually all theologians, bishops, and the Pope himself. You should remove this comment.
But the second lady’s sign of the Cross was not one…watch it again…it is incompletethey made the sign of the cross in front of the Holy Father.
NO, I have asked in plain english for someone to explain what the synod has done against catholic teaching.Read the working document. There was nothing in it that aligned with our creed. If any preach a gospel different let him be anathema. Did the working document or the ceremony give any indication of ideas or efforts toward knowing our Lord. Or that which he commanded his disciples. This is the same current that admonishes kneeling before our Lord in the Eucharist. The faithful all right to speak out. If they are premature and this synod goes on to affirm the teachings of Christ then all will be thankful. The truth though is that souls everywhere are at risk of damnation bc cowardly Bishops and Cardinals are unwilling to speak out against the lies of Satan. Catholics have silently waited for long enough. We are watching this synod closely.
Thankyou for thisThis is where it is helpful to have studied the history of synods throughout the whole of Church history. Synod technically means a meeting to discuss controversial issues. For example the Synod of Gangra in 340 AD discussed many unresolved issues presented by the Christians called Manichaeans. The Manichaeans refused to receive the sacraments from married Priests. That was condemned by the Synod which established that married Priests could perform valid Sacraments. (Nothing new under the sun really).
The Synod of Hippo met to discuss which of the many manuscripts were legitimately inspired. There were loads around. The Council of Nicea then moved to canonise what was decided on at the Synod.
Then there was the astounding “Cadaver Synod” in 897 which met to decide if the Church could legitimately put the corpse of Pope Formosus on trial for heresy. I could go on and on.
The Vatican is a great library of the history of the Church with a vast resource of theologians and philosophers. They also have the resource of the Pontifical Academies in the different science and humanities fields that get into ground root problems and competing ideologies to Christianity, to better understand how to guide.
A Synod to discuss the very pressing problems present in the Amazon and to discuss the ideas put forward to resolve them, is just par for the course for our wonderful universal Church. People are just ignorant to think that the Amazon synod is a departure from the usual processes of the Church.