Another man dies in police custody after disturbing video

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How about more Rs voting for Civil Rights Act than Ds?
Please. The battle line on the Civil Rights Act was not R vs D. It was between legislators from, or outside of states that were part of the historical Confederacy.

In the Senate, a greater portion of Ds than Rs, from both regions, voted for the Act. Among the Senators from states that were part of the confederacy the Republicans were unanimously opposed.

The position of the parties was not lost on the voters.
 
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Anyone care that Floyd likely died of health problems?
All of that might mitigate things somewhat, but generally one takes one’s victim as he finds him, vulnerabilities and all. Even racism is not the issue here. The real issue is whether the officer’s action in keeping Floyd down with a knee on his neck was justified or not. Right now, it’s hard to think so. But we’ll see as the evidence is further examined.
 
Anyone care that Floyd likely died of health problems? That the first couple cops that showed up were black and Asian? That Floyd had multiple convictions? That the guy who took a knee was married to a Hmong woman? No? I’ll keep moving along.
How does any of that justify murder?
 
How does any of that justify murder?
You’re assuming your conclusion. It’s possible the charge should be manslaughter if the force itself was not deadly but caused death incidentally.
 
You’re assuming your conclusion. It’s possible the charge should be manslaughter if the force itself was not deadly but caused death incidentally.
Perhaps. Its hard not to find intent when you can’t find the victim’s pulse but continue to apply pressure to his neck. No evidence of premeditation has been made public (and seems unlikely to exist), but there seems to be support for a killing that was not merely accidental or incidental.
 
We’ll see how it all turns out. I am personally inclined to believe the officer was being deliberately over-punitive to Floyd, even to the point of cruelty, but might not have intended to kill him. But again, I don’t know any of that for sure.
 
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4 cops were fired for their actions and will face justice in the courts.

Has nothing to do with Antifa causing mayhem and violent rioting that has killed more people.
You know, I saw a picture of the involved police and it looks like they are 4 distinct ethnic backgrounds which surprised me with all that has happened.
 
In regard to Floyd’s pre-existing health conditions, the action of the police officer might have activated and acutely aggravated his condition and thus indirectly caused his death. Would that scenario constitute a lesser charge than manslaughter?
 
I don’t think intent to murder can be proven, but certainly indifference to life as well as reckless behavior was evident. Does the second-degree murder charge apply to that?
 
Anyone care that Floyd likely died of health problems?
Even if he had preexisting health problems, no way was his death unrelated to what the police did to him.
That the first couple cops that showed up were black and Asian? That Floyd had multiple convictions? That the guy who took a knee was married to a Hmong woman? No? I’ll keep moving along.
What relevance does any of this have? If you think that the races of the cops involved or the race of the wife of any of the cops has any bearing on whether or not this was a racist killing, then I can’t help you.
 
We havent locked up a class of people simply because they belonged to that class in 75 years.
That’s not true. Justice Brennan tried to rule that any law which determined an offense according to race violated equal protection, but that view was never adopted. In Loving v. VA, a couple’s interracial marriage subjected them to a felony criminal charge. That was 53 years ago.

Fortunately for Clarence Thomas, the ACLU, which he excoriates, had the ban on interracial marriages overturned by SCOTUS.
 
Anyone care that Floyd likely died of health problems? That the first couple cops that showed up were black and Asian? That Floyd had multiple convictions? That the guy who took a knee was married to a Hmong woman? No? I’ll keep moving along.
I think this story is about bad police methods, not racism.
I think that if the cop had followed normal arrest protocols, Floyd would likely be alive.
 
Yes, we are all aware the Democrat led Jim Crow era, and the Republican led civil rights movement highlighted by MLKs peaceful protests.
Please stop with this inaccuracy. Republicans did not lead the civil rights movement. The biggest difference was between progressives and conservatives and Southerners vs. Northern congressmen. There was no Southern Republican opposition to civil rights because there were no Southern Republican congressmen then. It changed very quickly. The civil rights movement was led by Northern Democrats and progressive Republicans. We all recall Jimmy Carter stating in 1971 that the time for racial discrimination was over, while Reagan started out in politics opposing open housing and went on the oppose the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

Remember that the CA GOP tried to add this to the party platform in 1960: “All Negroes should be shipped back to Africa.”

MLK, Jr. was NOT a Republican and MLK, Sr. had been thrown out of the Republican party by Georgia party officials.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion but not his or her own facts.
 
Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion but not his or her own facts.

And Sr was a life long republican.
In October 1960, when King Jr. was arrested at a peaceful sit-in in Atlanta, Robert F. Kennedy, brother and aide to the Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kennedy, telephoned the judge and helped secure his release. Although King Sr. had previously opposed John Kennedy because he was a Catholic,[ citation needed ] he expressed his appreciation for these calls and switched his support to Kennedy. At this time, King had been a lifelong registered Republican, and had endorsed Republican Richard Nixon
 
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The Democrats are of course a racist party. If it were up to me I would have them all tried before the same court as the Republicans.

I would like to say though that MLK was a self-described socialist, and a lot of the major figures of the Civil Rights movement had socialist or communist leanings. Beyond the Reconstruction Era I don’t think Republicans can claim a major involvement in the Civil Rights movement.
Eisenhower, at least, played a pretty significant role. He may not have been the most eager champion, but i’d say what happened in the 1960s is directly related to Eisenhower essentially accepting after Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka that the Federal government had a significant role in race relations, and in particular in enforcing desegregation.
 
Eisenhower, at least, played a pretty significant role. He may not have been the most eager champion, but i’d say what happened in the 1960s is directly related to Eisenhower essentially accepting after Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka that the Federal government had a significant role in race relations, and in particular in enforcing desegregation.
Actually Eisenhower was tepid on Civil Rights and disagreed with the Brown decision. Yes, he sent federal troops to Little Rock but Faubus had forced him to act.
 
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