Are non-Catholics and Protestants who pulled Catholics away from their Catholic Faith, in danger of going to Hell?
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To continue answering questions with questions really seems on your part to be avoiding answering? I really don’t believe our Lord answered questions with questions to avoid giving his truth.
Please answer this question.
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then shall he render unto every man according to his deeds.
You answered you already addressed this one. Please help me out. Where was it posted and addressed?
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wow
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I’ve read through them and cannot find it or where as you say it’s been addressed. BTW, you’ve answered another question with a question.
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Gamera
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Oh my goodness!!! Wow, it is so eye-opening to see how far one can stray from the Gospel when one relies on man-made traditions instead of on Scripture and the preaching of the Apostles. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see how anybody with even a passing familiarity with the New Testament can believe that sin doesn’t separate us from God.
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someotherguy
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Me neither.
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wow
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Denying to answer questions is not really sharing your beliefs someotherguy. Answering questions with questions the way you are really does seem to be avoiding the questions we are putting forth.
I have re-read this thread again and feel confident you have not addressed the following scripture. However, I would still be interested in hearing your take on it.
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then shall he render unto every man according to his deeds.
Also, you haven’t responded since I posted more of James to try and put 2:24 into context the way I see it.
Jas 2:20 **But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? **
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou that faith did cooperate with his works and by works faith was made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God.
Jas 2:24 **Do you see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only? **
It appears to me that the story of Abraham and Issac are examples. I have bolded the question to start the example and the question that asks if the example is understood. How do you see the passage?
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historyb
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Understood and agree
Yes we are, where does it say again and again ad nauseum? It doesn’t say such a thing, that would be rather silly. That is reading into the verse something that’s not there, even as a Catholic I never believed such an outlandish thing.
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mozart-250
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Are Catholics and Protestants who pulled Protestants away from their Protestant Faith in danger of going to Hell?
(Maybe if I flip the question you can see the implicit arrogance it contains)
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Singinbeauty
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I couldn’t really vote because the question seems to say that catholics are in no danger of being sent to Hell…
There is more to our salvation than just arguing over who Daddy loves more.
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mozart-250
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Exactly.
Hey…congratulations on your husband coming home from his deployment. Continued prayers for his safety.
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vocatio
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My bible does not say that. And if you think it does then your not reading the whole thing. Which one are you reading? The scriptures say to seek out your faith with fear and trembling…that’s not an over night thing to do.
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vocatio
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My my we have such a high regard for oneself. Placing yourself up with the Savior I see. Wow! Does He know you’ve invited yourself to sit at His right hand.
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someotherguy
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When did I do that?
Are you familiar with Ephesians 2?Does He know you’ve invited yourself to sit at His right hand.
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someotherguy
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Then you’re reading the wrong Bible.
No, actually, I’ve been studying the whole thing for about twenty years now.
KJV.
Actually, the Bible never says how long that takes.
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vocatio
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Are you familiar with the Bible even? Apparently you have left out Jesus reply to his apostles…When did I do that?
When you replied that Jesus answered questions with question. I winked at you, but if you’re really serious, I’ll have to turn my graduation ring around and just bop you on the head like a good senior does to a freshman.
Are you familiar with Ephesians 2?
Mark 10:40
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someotherguy said:
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I read the KJV, NIV, NAB, and many more. I used to be a bible only Christian just over a year and a half ago. My FIL was an elder/bishop. I was planning on becoming a preacher once my wife would allow it. She was never peaceful with her cradle faith in the Churches of Christ. I grew up in non-denominational faith, accepted my dad’s faith as Catholic, but went to both a Sourthern Baptist church and later ended converting to COC. Used to eveangalize /no proselytize like you…only better. So much better that I actually read the ancient church fathers and discovered for myself that the historical church was in FACT catholic. Don’t worry, I’m not going to proselytize you. I gave that up when I rejected bible only theory that is blown away with scripture.
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Good for you. In about another 10 to 12 you’ll be where I am today. I’ve been studying scripture for 32. Just to give you an age. I started studying scripture when I was 14. And really seriously since the summer I turned 16. I even studying scripture and philosophy in college. Was a seminarian. I bought the King James Version 1611 edition with the “apocrypha” in the appendix. Dis you know that the original KJV had the same books as the so called Catholic bible. Yes. If the Bishops hadn’t gathered together to declare tha canon of scripture you might be worshiping rocks for all we know. I’ve done a bit of research on this because I couldn’t believe it either at first. I’ve got more to say on the subject than allowed to post.
KJV.
See above. Once I had an entire library of comentaries, Lexicons, Biblical History, Jewish traditions, Greek & Hebrew Lexicons, Josephus and Philo, etc. I donated them all to one of our churches.
someotherguy:
The bible says what I quoted. And you’re partly right. We go through daily conversion. That is scriptural. It’s prudent to watch out for Pride. Pride is Satan’s favorite tool to use against the proud.
Gotta go. The wife doesn’t like me hanging out on the boards too much. But I love to throw the shocker out to bible only Christians that believe they have all the answers and know scirpture more than others. It’s kind of fun. If you want a real challenge, go here => coctocatholic.com/forum/ Not that the Catholics here can’t handle you. But the forum I gave you is mostly conversts from solo scriptura. Some are Orthodox. Most are Catholic now.
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You compare yourself to our Lord? And, you still avoid answering direct questions. Does this mean you do not have an answer?
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