YAQUBOS:
Well, this is another heresy like that you declared before, talking about the Revelation of God.
- There is no such a thing as Baptism of the Spirit of desire.
- Mary, the Mother of the Lord, was also present in the day of Pentecost, and she was baptized of the Spirit.
- Even after our Lord breathed upon the apostles, He told them to wait in Jerusalem for the Promise.
‘“Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery.” Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons
would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.’ (CCC section 2, article one, 1260)
'Cyprian of Carthage
“[T]he baptism of public witness and of blood cannot profit a heretic unto salvation, because there is no salvation outside the Church.” (
Letters 72[73]:21 [A.D. 253]).
“[Catechumens who suffer martyrdom] are not deprived of the sacrament of baptism. Rather, they are baptized with the most glorious and greatest baptism of blood, concerning which the Lord said that he had another baptism with which he himself was to be baptized [Luke 12:50]” (ibid., 72[73]:22).
Cyril of Jerusalem
“If any man does not receive baptism, he does not have salvation. The only exception is the martyrs, who even without water will receive the kingdom.
. . . For the Savior calls martyrdom a baptism, saying, ‘Can you drink the cup which I drink and be baptized with the baptism with which I am to be baptized [Mark 10:38]?’ Indeed, the martyrs too confess, by being made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men [1 Cor. 4:9]” (*Catechetical Lectures *3:10 [A.D. 350]).’
catholic.com/library/Necessity_of_Baptism.asp
St. John the Baptist was a martyr of blood, St. Mary recieved a different Martyrdom while standing at the foot of the Cross on Calvary.
YAQUBOS:
- Who tells you that only THESE are the Church fathers writings? Who puts a canon for the writings of the fathers?
The infalliable church tells me these things. Who puts a canon for the writings in your Bible?
YAQBUOS:
- We still have the writings of the apostles to attest to what they preached!!
We still have the writing of the Church Fathers, who also attest to what the Apostle preached, in order to interpret the Writings of the Apostles, in full accordance to St. Peter’s admonishment, which is scripture!!!
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