Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

[AlNg]

You know, personal qualities and character.

Yes. It is all subjective and a way to downgrade the high scores on objective tests, as the Asians are scoring so much higher than any other group.
And speaking about character it is found that as a group, the rates of illicit substance abuse among Asians is too low in comparison with all other subgroups within the American population. And the rates of alcohol abuse disorder are significantly less than those of all other Americans.

• 4.8% of Asian Americans have a substance use disorder compared to a rate of 7.4% among the total population.
• 1.6% of Asian Americans have an illicit drug use disorder (almost half the rate as that among the total population).
  So it is pretty obvious that American university administrators are using all kinds of fraudulent charades to justify their unfair and unjust racial discrimination against Asian Americans.

 

[Nepperhan]

Ranked most liberal compared to All Senators

That’s kind of nutty. Ranked by whom? Further left than Bernie?

 

[Thorolfr]

1cthlctrth:

Ranked most liberal compared to All Senators

That’s kind of nutty. Ranked by whom? Further left than Bernie?

It’s laughable that Harris would be ranked most liberal by anyone. She’s more of a moderate and an establishment Democrat. More liberal Democrats were probably disappointed that Biden picked her instead of Elizabeth Warren or Karen Bass.

 

[jeannetherese]

For those in the know, the fact that Ms. Harris has HBCU and AKA in her background makes her much more in the black mainstream than Condoleeza Rice, who has neither.

Interesting. So attending Howard (a historically black college/univiersity) makes her more in the black mainstream than Condoleeza Rice? Rachel Dolezal also attended Howard. Where are you placing her on the this mainstream blackness spectrum?

 

[Nepperhan]

So attending Howard (a historically black college/univiersity) makes her more in the black mainstream than Condoleeza Rice?

Yes, as a matter of fact. And she is an AKA. Condoleeza Rice is in a sorority but not among the Divine 9.

 

[27lw]

jeannetherese:

So attending Howard (a historically black college/univiersity) makes her more in the black mainstream than Condoleeza Rice?

Yes, as a matter of fact. And she is an AKA. Condoleeza Rice is in a sorority but not among the Divine 9.

It’s a "black"ness competition I guess! But since Condaleeza Rice is a Republican she’s “off the reservation” anyway!
Nepperhan are you qualified to judge the blackness competition? What is your street cred?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Catholics in office should not hesitate to act contrary to their beliefs? News to me.

Poor wording on my part, and you made something of it that it wasn’t.

Catholics should always act according to Catholic teaching.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Do you mean that Evangelicals support Trump because of his godly moral values? Really?

I don’t think they care very much what he thinks deep down. They, like observant Catholics, pay attention to what he DOES. So far, his actions have been prolife. He is supportive of marriage and family. He favors policies that are directed to getting just wages for families.

But regardless, his morals as presently exhibited, massively surpass those of his Dem opponents. Hard to believe he doesn’t believe in any of them. Also, Evangelicals, like most observant Catholics, also believe in change of heart and redemption.

 

[RidgeSprinter]

Nothing about race in America seems to make sense…

Made me wondering: my husband is, as I said, mestizo from South America and I am white. What race would our daughter be considered in the US?

Some say “Eres lo que tu madre es”

 

[Ridgerunner]

Your daughter would probably be considered whatever she wants to be considered. I’m guessing your daughter is indistinguishable, physically, from most people who are considered “white”. If she restricts herself to association with Mestizos, she will probably be considered Hispanic because she regards herself as a person of a different “racial group” . But of course, setting Hispanics apart as a separate racial or ethnic group is entirely misplaced because being “Hispanic” is only a matter of linguistics and last name. It’s basically a fabrication of the Democrat party in the U.S. which engages in division politics.

I know a great number of “Hispanics” (mostly of Mexican descent) some of whom have basically just become “American” with a bit of Mexican cultural retention. But a lot of America has aspects of Mexican cultural borrowings, so that’s not considered unusual or alien.

 

[qui_est_ce]

It’s laughable that Harris would be ranked most liberal by anyone. She’s more of a moderate and an establishment Democrat. More liberal Democrats were probably disappointed that Biden picked her instead of Elizabeth Warren or Karen Bass.

She’s pretty far left. I can’t think of too many positions that would be farther left than hers.

 

[TMC]

It’s laughable that Harris would be ranked most liberal by anyone. She’s more of a moderate and an establishment Democrat. More liberal Democrats were probably disappointed that Biden picked her instead of Elizabeth Warren or Karen Bass.

Yeah, one of her weaknesses is that the liberal wing is very annoyed that they did not get a left liberal on the ticket. They were not happy with Biden, and expected to get a more liberal VP as the consolation prize. Now the GOP can’t seem to decide whether to try to paint her as an extremist lib (which she is not) or to emphasize her splits with the Dem base.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Nothing about race in America seems to make sense…

I think you may be expecting to be consistency on racial classification in the USA. I don’t think that there has been a time since the nation was formed in which such consistency exists. In some states in the USA people of indigenous ancestry could be considered white.

but it just seems so arbitrary.

It is.

What race would our daughter be considered in the US?

The classification would be subjective and change from one person to another.

Kind of related, did you see what happened with the Dominican Republic decided to kick out people alleged to be Haitian?

 

[TMC]

I think you may be expecting to be consistency on racial classification in the USA. I don’t think that there has been a time since the nation was formed in which such consistency exists. In some states in the USA people of indigenous ancestry could be considered white.

Yes, the history of racial classification in America is crazy and inconsistent. Always has been. One anecdote - when Thomas Jefferson died he freed his children by Sally Hemming (an enslaved black person), but two of those children did not want to be “freed” because they were living in the North and passing as white, and did not want a legal document that acknowledged that they were black. They were probably one quarter African, because Sally was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister (having been fathered by Mrs. Jefferson’s own father with an enslaved woman).

 

[tuffsmurf]

Actually they were 1/8 black, since Sally Hemmings herself was a quarter, her mother also being the daughter of a white man and an enslaved woman.

 

[tuffsmurf]

When you think about it, black and white are weird terms to use. Why aren’t Japanese people white even though they have pale skin? Are Australian aboriginals black? Their skin is dark, but they are more closely related to europeans than to africans, so it would be weird to place them in the same race.

 

[TMC]

Actually they were 1/8 black, since Sally Hemmings herself was a quarter, her mother also being the daughter of a white man and an enslaved woman.

Ahh. I knew Sally was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister (which is pretty creepy, if you think about it), but I did not realize that Sally’s mom was also the daughter of a white man. It just goes to show how common sexual exploitation and rape was in the slave era.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

When you think about it, black and white are weird terms to use. Why aren’t Japanese people white even though they have pale skin?

It was about putting people into social cast, not about being descriptive. There are some people classified as black that have skin lighter than some people classified as white. There are also siblings of the same mother and father that may be classified differently (if one sibling could “pass” but the other could not).

If you go to South Africa the classifications they tend to use are Black, White, and Coloured. A black person from the USA would be considered colored. A Japanese person would be considered white, a Chinese person would be considered colored. The classification is largely used to decide how society will treat the person where a black person from South Africa gets the worst treatment.

 

[tuffsmurf]

Apparently there were also slaves, mainly in Louisiana, with some african ancestry but majority european and therefore looking almost fully white. But they were slaves because they were born from an enslaved mother.

 

[tuffsmurf]

Yeah, it just shows how race is a man-made concept, a social construct.