Biden Projected Winner, Rollbacks on Pro-Life and Religious Liberty Protections Expected

[JonNC]

But yet I and millions of others in America are labeled haters and deplorables. Like for instance, the person who has a Confederate Flag on their car or truck is automatically labelled a bigot.

They should be labeled a Democrat. It is a flag designed for the Democrats.

The Democrats Created and Own the Confederate Flag | National Review

 

[JonNC]

Agreed. But this necessitates corporations being cut off from their welfare.

I agree. One way would be to do away with corporate income taxes so that government won’t respond to lobbyists looking for special carve outs.

A truly free market in health care would, I don’t doubt, see prices fall and more people covered. But this necessitates getting big business and big government out of the way.

Crony capitalism is almost always a detriment.

 

[StudentMI]

Crony capitalism is almost always a detriment.

I would say always, myself. It opens up a legitimation crisis, and just complaints from those left out of the system of privilege that can lead to socialistic measures.

 

[mercyalways]

mercyalways:

Have you read about the Equality Act and the Hyde Amendment or about the constant attack on the Little Sister of the Poor?

I think that the issue as to all of that is over and done with.

Sorry, quite the opposite. The Hyde Amend. and Equality Act are the future Biden has promised. The Hyde Amendment will send millions of our taxes abroad to fund millions of abortions. The Equality Act will likely force the closure of Catholic hospitals (usually charitable institutions) and will end in the loss of real care for many poor people. It may also end all religious schools.

High schools girls will be forced to shower and change and race against those who are born men, and perhaps still have full male characteristics, but who now believe themselves to be women.

These are things no devout Catholic can face without anguish.

 

[JonNC]

I would say always, myself. It opens up a legitimation crisis, and just complaints from those left out of the system of privilege that can lead to socialistic measures.

Okay. Always.
It is important to reduce general government power so that the temptation of influence isn’t there.

 

[JonNC]

Nepperhan:

mercyalways:

Have you read about the Equality Act and the Hyde Amendment or about the constant attack on the Little Sister of the Poor?

I think that the issue as to all of that is over and done with.

Sorry, quite the opposite. The Hyde Amend. and Equality Act are the future Biden has promised. The Hyde Amendment will send millions of our taxes abroad to fund millions of abortions. The Equality Act will likely force the closure of Catholic hospitals (usually charitable institutions) and will end in the loss of real care for many poor people. It may also end all religious schools.

High schools girls will be forced to shower and change and race against those who are born men, and perhaps still have full male characteristics, but who now believe themselves to be women.

These are things no devout Catholic can face without anguish.

But they are things progressives defend and will relish.

 

[Nepperhan]

Sorry, quite the opposite.

No, they reflect passed legislation and a case settled in court. Biden cannot change any law or undo any legal decision.

 

[ProVobis]

If large associations of free individuals were permitted to form across state lines

States regulate insurance companies within their state. If company like Blue Cross of So Carolina wants to do business inside Illinois, for example, they’d have to find agents who are licensed there. Feds have nothing to say.

 

[mercyalways]

No, they reflect passed legislation and a case settled in court. Biden cannot change any law or undo any legal decision.

Both are proposed legislation which will cause huge damage to Catholics. Biden claims he will get them passed forthwith.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

If large associations of free individuals were permitted to form across state lines

States regulate insurance companies within their state. If company like Blue Cross of So Carolina wants to do business inside Illinois, for example, they’d have to find agents who are licensed there. Feds have nothing to say.

Correct, but state governments in the way are still government in the way.

 

[YADA]

I think that the issue as to all of that is over and done with.

Joe Biden does not agree with you - he thinks he can right the injustice caused by that SCOTUS decision. Here’s Biden’s full statement:

Health care is a right that should not be dependent on race, gender, income or zip code. Yet as a result of today’s decision, countless women are at risk of losing access to affordable, preventive care.

I am disappointed in today’s U.S. Supreme Court decision that will make it easier for the Trump-Pence Administration to continue to strip health care from women – attempting to carve out broad exemptions to the Affordable Care Act’s commitment to giving all women free access to recommended contraception.

As a result of the Affordable Care Act, more than 60 million women – including at least 32 million women of color – gained access to this preventative health care. The Obama-Biden Administration did this while also providing an exemption for houses of worship and an accommodation for nonprofit organizations with religious missions.

As disappointing as the Supreme Court’s ruling is, there is a clear path to fixing it: electing a new President who will end Donald Trump’s ceaseless attempts to gut every aspect of the Affordable Care Act. If I am elected, I will restore the Obama-Biden policy that existed before the Hobby Lobby ruling: providing an exemption for houses of worship and an accommodation for nonprofit organizations with religious missions. The accommodation will allow women at these organizations to access contraceptive coverage, not through their employer-provided plan, but instead through their insurance company or a third-party administrator.

Joe Biden Says He Would Rescind Exemption for Little Sisters of Poor | National Review

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

I’d probably agree with you if anything you said was remotely in line with Catholic teaching.

 

[Dovekin]

My point being, I am NOT a hater.

Hilary said 50% of Trump’s followers belonged in the basket of deplorables, and the other 50% did not. So why do you count yourself among the 50% that that term refers to? Why do you not count yourself as someone who belongs in the other basket?

You have adopted the Trumpian spin that Hilary said all Trump supporters were deplorable. While doing that, you have failed to try to understand what she was saying, which is what you now think Biden should do for you.

. . . .

 

[jeannetherese]

Hilary said 50% of Trump’s followers belonged in the basket of deplorables, and the other 50% did not.

That would be roughly 25% of all voters! That’s an awful lot of citizens! Quite the broad-brush.

 

[ProVobis]

state governments in the way are still government in the way.

Then who will protect you from fraud, which, according to libertarians, is an understood function of government?

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

state governments in the way are still government in the way.

Then who will protect you from fraud, which, according to libertarians, is an understood function of government?

So, you’re saying that a business that operates cross state lines can’t be held accountable for fraud?

 

[Zake]

I’d probably agree with you if anything you said was remotely in line with Catholic teaching.

I don’t know which Catholic teaching says that Biden will prosecute the OTHER Catholics… being one himself. Will he try to curtail your freedom to worship? Or force women to have abortions against your will?

 

[JonNC]

No one will try to curtail your freedom to worship.

The phrase “Freedom to worship” is an attempt to minimize the actual and protected right: the right to free exercise of religion. This right is not limited to going to worship. It includes one’s everyday life.
The HHS Mandate specifically curtailed this right by forcing individuals to participate in and contribute toward birth measures in violation of their religious beliefs.
Attempts have been made to force individuals to participate in “marriage” events that were in violation of the religious beliefs.
These violate the basic constitutionally protected individual right of religious free exercise.

 

[YADA]

Perhaps he’s not going to force women to have abortions but he is going to force taxpayers to not only pay for abortions here in this country but also export abortions around the world with your taxpayer dollars. Biden has also said very clearly that he intends to correct the Injustice of the SCOTUS decision that supported the Little Sisters of the Poor - forcing them to pay for abortifant birth control and abortions through their insurance purchase and against Catholic teaching and their consciences.

While I do not see rounding up Catholics and putting them in re-education camps like China has done with the Muslims, I do see that people will go and get a civil marriage certificate before a Justice of the Peace and then come to the church for a Sacramental Marriage as the Church may no longer being licensed by the state for marriages because they refuse to participate in same-sex marriages.

I do see Catholic schools being impacted due to compliance issues and accreditation. There are many ways for the government impact Catholics.

 

[Zake]

The phrase “Freedom to worship” is an attempt to minimize the actual and protected right: the right to free exercise of religion.

That is an interesting topic to explore.

You are free to exercise your religion in your home and in your church in any way you wish. But as soon as you come out to the actual and SECULAR world, you are not allowed to DO everything you might want to.

Attempts have been made to force individuals to participate in “marriage” events that were in violation of the religious beliefs.

That is nonsense. No one forces you to engage or participate in a homosexual marriage. But if you are in a public business endeavor, you cannot discriminate against any member of the public based upon your religious beliefs. The KKK could argue that preventing them from lynching blacks is an intrusion into their religious liberty.

When we live in a society, it imposes all sorts of limitations. If you move to a desert island, you can do anything you want to.