Can we stop arguing and support each other?

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lol @MadeAnew in response to your question which titles this post, the answer is evidently a resounding “no”
 
RidgeSprinter defending Andrew Cuomo threatening violence (to “deck” him if the conditions were right) against President Trump under the conditions he considers favorable . . .
That’s a new yorker for you.
I will remember this line
the next time someone carps about a brash Trump Tweet.
 
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The way Capitalism works is if you put in hard work and time you reap what you sow.
No, that isn’t how it works.

The wealthiest people (the top 1%) , on average get about 6 out of 10 dollars (58.5%) of their income from capital gains, dividends, interest, rent, and profits (capital income) rather than wages and salaries (earned income, 41.5% of the share). It is even more skewed when you get to the very, very rich (top .1 — multi-millionaires who made just under 5 million per year in 2010) who earn almost 70% of their income from capital sources. These were numbers from 2007. They are probably even more skewed now.


 
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Gutfeld on the Democrats’ desire to name and shame Trump supporters​

Nov. 10, 2020 - 7:08 - Media and Democrats demand retribution against Trump supporters; reaction and analysis on ‘The Five’
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Gutfeld on the Democrats’ desire to name and shame Trump supporters​

The side of peace wants to tear you to pieces​

By Greg Gutfeld | Fox News

As the media and Democrats preach healing, their loudest voices are planning something else. They call it accountability, but it’s actually retribution.

Two weeks ago I described how former Clinton administration labor secretary Robert Reich got the ball rolling, suggesting that the left name and shame anyone connected to Trump. The bearded Bozo exposed the sinister underbelly of the so-called tolerant left, salivating at the chance for revenge.

Then there’s Hari Sevugan, a former spokesman for President Barack Obama, who touted the Trump accountability project, which vows to keep anyone Trump employed from getting work. Their motto: “Remember what they did.”

AOC, OTHERS PUSHING FOR APPARENT BLACKLIST OF PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH TRUMP

Others have joined the vengeful mob. MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes jumped in. So did the Philadelphia Inquirer and The Nation magazine. And the always delightful Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, D-N.Y.

And before the election, Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin said this of people who she described as President Trump’s enablers: “Shunning, shaming these people is a statement of moral indignation that these people are not fit for polite society.… It’s not only that Trump has to lose, but that all his enablers have to lose. We have to collectively, in essence, burn down the Republican Party. We have to level them because if there are survivors, if there are people who weather this storm, they will do it again.”

She’s gross. No wonder Trump voters were shy around the media’s nosy pollsters

The side of peace wants to tear you to pieces. It’s never been about compromise. . . .

. . . I just wish they’d wear brown shirts so we’d recognize them. But this ain’t new. It began years before this election: shutting down speakers, banning people from media platforms, cancel culture. The delusional woke-ism that energizes the mob in the streets, in politics and in media.

People losing jobs and businesses. Criminals burning buildings. So why not a witch hunt? It fits.

Imagine the reverse: After a Trump win, his fans vow to create a MAGA inquisition! You can’t imagine it, because we’re normal. We see people before we see power. . . .
 
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More leftist vindictive behavior.

Twitter puts up with it (which just enables more of this quasi-doxing and retribution. – Twitter eventually took down the posts, but allowed these people to keep their accounts).

Never Trump Lincoln Project Targets Trump Attorneys: ‘Make Them Famous’​

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KYLE MORRIS

10 Nov 2020

The Never Trump Lincoln Project, a political action committee run by multiple GOP campaign operatives opposed to President Donald Trump, shared a post to social media on Tuesday targeting two Porter Wright attorneys in Pennsylvania who are working to assist the Trump campaign with claims of voter fraud.

“Here are two attorneys attempting to help Trump overturn the will of the Pennsylvanian people,” the committee wrote in a tweet, which has now been removed.

Included in the tweet were photos of the two targeted attorneys, along with email addresses and phone numbers where they could be contacted.

“Make them famous,” the committee added to the tweet. . . .
 
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Long list of media, Democrats threaten retribution against Trump supporters, Republicans World News
November 9th, 2020 Long list of media, Democrats threaten retribution against Trump supporters, Republicans Both wildly inappropriate and unsurprising Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images Sarah Taylor Journalist Drew Holden shared a lengthy — and alarming — list of media outlets, fellow journalists, and members of the Democratic Party who are threatening retribution against Republicans supporting President Donald Trump and his allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election and …

Tucker reacts to ‘tough guy’ Cuomo’s latest Trump rant​

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Published on Nov 10, 2020

On ‘The Howard Stern Show’ Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he would have ‘decked’ President Trump if he wasn’t the governor.
 
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Ok. In other words if the shoe were on the foot no doubt Hillary would be cool with Biden wanting to sort out any allegations of election fraud possibly committed by the Republican Party and not be in a hurry to concede? Or does it only apply to Biden and not Trump? Which would make her and everyone else in the Dem party utter Hypocrites.
 
By ensuring the needs of of everyone are met.
How are you going to do that? Steal from people who have money and give handouts to people who don’t? You can’t tax your way to prosperity. You aren’t entitled to other people’s money no matter how much they have. Taxation just leads to higher prices, and less jobs. Tax a business owner whether big or small they will just pass the costs down to the average joes through price hikes or layoffs.
you should start with the USCCB’s Economic Justice for All if you have further questions.
LOL. Yeah No thanks. Pope St. John Paul II, made it crystal clear that there is no magisterium of the USCCB.
 
Ok. In other words if the shoe were on the foot no doubt Hillary would be cool with Biden wanting to sort out any allegations of election fraud possibly committed by the Republican Party and not be in a hurry to concede?
Of course there is doubt this is true. Hillary Clinton did actually concede. History may not be popular here, but this was only four years ago.

You cannot just make something up out of thin air and present it like obvious truth, and act like it proves something! Oh, wait a minute. You are not on Trump’s legal team by any chance, are you?
 
Just a quick correction of what Hillary said to Biden - but it really changes the context:“Whatever happens, do not concede defeat on the night of the Nov. 3 election.”
Well we don’t have to worry about “Whataboutism”
 
Again were there any allegations of election fraud / vote manipulation committed by the Republican Party in 2016? Hillary did concede but at the time mail in ballots were not done on the scale that we saw in 2020.

Is it really too much to ask to make sure an election was conducted fairly? That election laws were adhered to? I’m sure you don’t trust the Republican Party and if the situation were in reverse you would appreciate it if the Biden campaign worked hard to find out if the Republican Party manipulated votes.
 
Is it really too much to ask to make sure an election was conducted fairly? That election laws were adhered to? I’m sure you don’t trust the Republican Party and if the situation were in reverse you would appreciate it if the Biden campaign worked hard to find out if the Republican Party manipulated votes.
I would prefer that the default is “We think the election was conducted fairly” instead of “We don’t trust the election was run fairly and want to check”.

Without evidence, this is just an exercise in lawyer employment.
 
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Without evidence, this is just an exercise in lawyer employment.
The anger and denial comes from not trusting the media. Trump said there was evidence of Fraud. The media, with out checking, went on the offensive and said that Trump with out evidence makes the claims.

A reputable media would try and look to see if what he said was true, instead of keep saying that there is no evidence.

The media has gone from, there is no evidence to, there is fraud, but not enough to sway an election. My question is… Why is the media not investigating? They are not, they are analyzing, not having people on the ground, not interviewing those who have come forward. The media simply says, no evidence. That is not journalism.

I distrust the media for a really long time. Due to past experiences, where I saw much lies where I had been.

I am not saying that Biden lost. All I am saying is that the Media is not investigating and are simply deflecting. This is what you call propaganda.
 
I’m sure you don’t trust the Republican Party and if the situation were in reverse you would appreciate it if the Biden campaign worked hard to find out if the Republican Party manipulated votes.
You are quite mistaken. I would, in fact, if the lawsuits were able to eliminate enough ballots for him to win, accept that outcome.

If the current president does not want to concede, the least he could do is acknowledge that he is behind and allow for the potential of transition to go forward. Have we had a commander-in-chief for four years that does not even know what a contingency is?
 
I am not saying that Biden lost. All I am saying is that the Media is not investigating and are simply deflecting. This is what you call propaganda.
Interesting discussion we could have about the role of the press in a free society.

Do they only report what others tell them? Do they do independent investigations? Do they investigate things that seem to bolster a party in a lawsuit or a political party in an election?

I do think they should independently verify facts. I think they should look for the truth. I think they should be impartial.
 
There is a chance that even if there is fraud, if it is not overwhelming, the Courts may let it ride as to not divide the country.

The fraud will really need to be overwhelming for courts to rule and for it to deeply affect an election.

Now, this in Pennsylvania, obviously, if there is a scenario where votes can be cast after the election by 3 days or so, if post dates on letters are not important, that sort of situation can not happen.
 
I would prefer that the default is “We think the election was conducted fairly
Once upon a time, that was the default assumption.

But our nation is so incredibly broken, lines of information are too muddy, the average person doesn’t know who to trust.

These problems started ed way before 2016
 
But our nation is so incredibly broken, lines of information are too muddy, the average person doesn’t know who to trust.

These problems started ed way before 2016
They came of age in the age of the internet. We should all strive to be above average, which sounds mathematically silly, but what it means is we need to learn how to surf an read for content, not opinion. Hopefully future generations will be better at this.

One thing that helps is reading sideways, by opening multiple news browsers from sources that normally do not agree and find out what facts are in common and uncontested, then not accept the other stuff for a time, as clarity often comes with time.
 
You are absolutely correct, we should all stop arguing and let God sort all of this out.

We should close the pro life movement, let God decide on abortion, start catering to the LGBT people, let them get married in our Churches etc, God will fix all of this.
God does not need out help, we make it worse by causing all of this hate.
 
I think they should be impartial.
It would be nice if all you think “should be” were, but it is not.

Do you honestly believe that NBC/CBS/ABC/NYT et al are impartial?

If you do not believe they are impartial, why do you believe what they say?
 
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