Can we stop arguing and support each other?

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Nobody is totally impartial. There are means that all intelligent folks possess, however, to tease out facts from multiple sources, and to make the distinction between reporting the news, commentary, and editorials.

And yes, that includes making the MSM part of your analysis. Moreover I still trust the MSM more than the likes of Breitbart or other organizations with an axe to grind. Believe it or not MSM journalists do have standards they must adhere to. Of course sometimes they fail to follow them being fallible humans. That’s where critical thinking on the part of the reader comes in.
 
pnewton said:
They came of age in the age of the internet.
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Yes and it became incredibly amplified when anybody with a two bit opinion and access to the internet could say and do anything they like.

(I wish I could give your post more :heart:s)
 
I think the general attitude is “YES! Let’s all stop arguing and support each other. But I have a righteous ax to grind, so YOU stop”.
 
The media are propagandists rather than reporters.

I guess it is inevitable when a democracy depending on consensus meets a Godlessness that denies truth for power based narratives.
 
I hope the irony that at least four different arguments have broken out on a “[c]an we stop arguing” thread is not lost on anyone here.
 
Nah, I love me some good irony.

But that’s kinda the issue, isn’t it?

That we have real divisions in opinions, some of which can’t be reconciled, that people have really hurt each other in these past decades, real forgiveness is a forgotten art (also it takes effort, and we are real lazy, too).
 
Annie said:
Do you honestly believe that NBC/CBS/ABC/NYT et al are impartial?

If you do not believe they are impartial, why do you believe what they say?
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A person with a position can still say true things.
 
This is a Catholic forum, accordingly, some seem to support intrinsic evils contrary to Catholic doctrine. Not condemning anyone, just the facts.
 
They choose the facts they will present.

I heard way, way more about Trump’s misquotes about Charlottesville than I did about the ME accords he arranged, and most of what the MSM said about the accords was negative.
 
Duke12VonFalkenburg said:
How are you going to do that? Steal from people who have money and give handouts to people who don’t?
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If you’re going to define taxing as stealing there’s not really a discussion to be had. Your position is also not supported by Catholic social teaching.
Duke12VonFalkenburg said:
LOL. Yeah No thanks. Pope St. John Paul II, made it crystal clear that there is no magisterium of the USCCB.
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Which is also not an argument. You haven’t shown any disagreement between the USCCB and Catholic social teaching. And as my quote about socialization straight from the mouth of JPII made clear, your citation of him is selective. Please address the fact that JPII said socialization of some means of production could be legitimate.
 
Victoria33 said:
This is a Catholic forum, accordingly, some seem to support intrinsic evils contrary to Catholic doctrine. Not condemning anyone, just the facts.
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This isn’t a fact. You’ve claimed that “some seem to support intrinsic evils.” In reality, they don’t. They simply believe in different approaches to reducing and eliminating those evils.
 
Victoria33 said:
This is a Catholic forum, accordingly, some seem to support intrinsic evils contrary to Catholic doctrine. Not condemning anyone, just the facts.
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This is why I believe that our shepherds need to come forward and clarify to us, who is right. Is Biden supporting intrinsic evils or he is doing the greater good. What are we to follow? Because if Biden is in fact supporting intrinsic evils and we support him. Are we enabling evil? Or if Biden is doing a greater good, why are we not to support?

I believe I know the answer, but the Bishops are quiet about it.
 
silentwitness said:
The media are propagandists rather than reporters.
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pnewton said:
Generalize much? Illogical statements are not a basis for any conclusion.
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It is an opinion pnewton which many share based on experience.

To be frank that is all you have given in reply and i think your words are much truer for your own opinion than mine.

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I agree. I’ve really been convicted about this myself. I’ve decided to stop all political talk on FB, etc and have alienated some friends and family. Though I rarely post political stuff on FB I’ve gotten into some arguments and I’m beginning to feel it’s not a good Christian witness. Some of my friends family are unbelievers and I don’t want them to see Christianity as supporting a certain political candidate
 
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