The way I take this “dumbing down” is the same as watering down…example
Whoa! Hold on. I voted for a pro-life democrat, whose record was not as corrupted as the pro-life republican. I don’t have to make any excuses to you, my church, or my God.
You greatly overestimate my ability to influence people.
Each time I reply to your questions, I ask you questions also.
You werent dumb but you did go against the clear teaching of the Church. You have told us in the past that you have always voted staright Democrat so it appears that the war is the just the latest rationalization for supportng pro-abortion canidates. To be fair I know you dont think of it in thise terms-you just vote for Democrats and the fact they are pro-abortion is irelevant to you. Paty all.
So opposing the killing of our children is a 'holier than thou" attitude?? And you were teaching our youth? When they expressed revulsion for pro-life advocates did you take the time to tell them how important the cause they were involved in was? Or did you just roll your eyes and mutter about them being “holier than thou”? Are you, BTW, involved in the pro-life ministry?
I certainly do have a plan, winning the hearts and minds of others, which is your plan # 1. I am very vocal with websites and host and built a website with my brothers for a friend of mine, who has been on the radio station here Deacon John Beckman. The website is catholicchristians.com.Whoa! Hold on. I voted for a pro-life democrat, whose record was not as corrupted as the pro-life republican. I don’t have to make any excuses to you, my church, or my God.
I think the first thing that has to happen is that people need to renounce the infallibility of the Republican Party. Which I said many posts ago and this repeating is becoming pointless.
You greatly overestimate my ability to influence people.
First, I don’t even see what I’m doing his as an argument. Second, my “argument” was simply asking you what is part two of the plan? What do you do after overturning that one decision?
You have no plan. If anything, that shows a lack of priority on your behalf.
Each time I reply to your questions, I ask you questions also.
You have yet to answer. How long do you think I will let you get away with that?
So you tell me I am making an impression on other Catholics. I tell you the same. As a former teacher of adolescents, teenagers, and young adults, I can tell you what most young people think of most of the pro-life activists: they run the other direction when they see them. Face it, you’ve got a lot of folks acting as bad as PETA!
To sum up for those who are SO MUCH holier than me and seem to be not actually reading my posts and seeing what you want to see. You are painting me as some sort of pro-choice, rationalizer. Save that energy for when you actually find one.
I did not vote pro-death. I did not influence anyone to do so.
I believe life starts at conception, or “human life” or whatever distinction you want to make.
I just returned from mass with communion, and I have nothing to prove about my faith to you or anyone here.
43 million babies died, and one of them was mine. And there was nothing I could do about it.
Read what I wrote Bob - you know all the smug holier than thou posts about OTHER POSTERS. That comment was explicitly aimed at this thread. No one else .
Ok Bob - you have it your way. I was evil then and I’m evil now. Now you can move on to other things, like telling me I’m killing people…oh wait, here it comes.
You didn’t read what I said.
You didn’t read what I said. Here is what I said:
I’ve seen this in every thread you participate in bob. It ain’t helping anyone.
To vote GOP?
I would have voted for the Republicans if they were anti-war, regardless of my past Democratic affiliation. I consider the War an utter disaster.
As have you, it seems to me. I can’t even conceive a scenario where you would vote other than Republican, no matter how they would change. You seem, for better or worse, a true-believing diehard Republican, which I suppose, is okay.
The war an utter disaster considering another disaster of over 43 million babies killed?
I voted against Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Rick Perry in last week’s election. Both Republicans.
The war has gone on for some three years. Have there been 43 mil abortions in the US in that time frame? It seems an awfully high number.
Yes, and here I agree with you. Any very vocal pro-abortion politician should not receive our votes.
Come on, stop the twisting, I did not say that there were over 43 million in 3 years time.
Have you no knowledge of priests (and other Catholics) tell Catholics that it is allright to support those in favor of abortion, ot to practice birth control, etc. I did not say the CHURCH was getting dumber, I said there is a dumbing down of the church. There is a big difference. Sorry I did not say it in a way you could understand.
You greatly overestimate my ability to influence people.
The first and most important issue is life:
I am not sure that I agree with all of your post. I certainly do that the most important issue is life, but that Casey was elected may send a message to the democrats that being pro life and sticking to your guns is a good thing, instead of selling your soul for power (as so many so called Catholic politicians have done). That may mean more in the bigger picture.
If you read through my previous posts you can see that I couldnt agree more.
I did a search on the death penalty on the web, then on the political platform of the Republicans and Democrats.