Catholics Converting to Evangelical: More Fun and Happy

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KathleenElsie said:
Brings to mind the “ant and the grasshopper” fable. The ant worked hard and had food and shelter from the world around him. The grasshopper played and had fun and did not take care of tomorrows needs.

The ant is the Christian. The grasshopper is the atheist.

There is a forever called eternity. We need to prepare for it.😃
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This is exactly why I said you just don’t get it. My perception of fun is benefitting another being or beings. I can be in any situation and be helping someone else. I think it’d be so much fun to help brighten a homeless person’s day. It’d be fun to be a doctor and help make a person healthy, or help them when they’re dying, I even have fun skateboarding!.. Your perception of fun is stuck to one kind of lifestyle that you project upon seeing the word “Fun.”
 
Man, you just don’t explain yourself well. You said “a Christian’s first goal is to be happy.” It is not what you meant. You meant that we should have a good attitude in what we do. Of course. And, no, the Church isn’t “threatened by happiness.” That is ridiculous. Christians are by our nature cheerful people, because we are thankful for God’s gifts, hopeful for heaven, etc.

In other words, as I already quoted, we are seeking God first, and everything else comes with it.
jedimasterham said:
Man, you guys just don’t get it… When you have fun, you’re setting an example for the people around you… You probably think of fun as drinking or drugs or dancing right?? I mean fun as in helping people… If I was in the worst situation in the world, a war perhaps, I could still have fun helping others, fun smiling, being an example for those around me…

Happiness is important… The church is threatened by happiness, because if you can be happy now, then why do you need heaven… Also, why can’t I be happy if someone’s dying, or why can’t I be happy in any situation… I could be happy if I was dying, it’s my choice.
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Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
 
Jeanette_L said:
Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
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👍
 
Jeanette_L said:
Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
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Wow … I love this! 🙂

:amen:

~~ the phoenix
 
Jeanette_L said:
Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
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Amen
 
Jeanette_L said:
Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
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And I didn’t mean to be flip, but I am very confident that many Catholics that we all see leaving the Church for the emotional feel good stuff they get out there, will eventually return home for the above reasons.

They will find out in due time they have entered a world of confusion and false promises. The only faith that will adequately see them through the times of serious trial and suffering is the one they have left behind, and the one that will call them home to open arms.
 
Jeanette_L said:
Why don’t we turn this around a bit.

Evangelicals Converting to Catholicism: More settled, more secure, more at peace. A deeper walk, a calmer demeanor, a joy that transcends emotionalism. A mature, well rounded faith. The prodigal returned home.

Just a thought. 😉
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AMEN exactly! Quieter, more reverent, because He is with us. The crowds surrounding Jesus were there in rapt attention, they weren’t singing and dancing. In Matthew 16:32, the 4,000 had been with him three days (note that number again!) And we have trouble finding ONE HOUR to spend with him? Lord have mercy on us, an evil and corrupt generation!

He uses the silent voice of the Holy Spirit to teach us-if we can just shut up.

Praise Jesus.
 
I personally know of Catholics who leave the Catholic Church to join other denominations.These people have one thing in common ie they don’t know the catholic faith deep enough and worse they criticised the Catholic pratices out of total ignorance . Most of them are Sunday church goers only and never participate in any other church formation activities Many of them don’t even have a Bible when they were Catholics and when after they join the other denominations they begin to boast of their Bible knowledge.They need to read a lot about the miracles of the host,apparitions of Mary ,participate in charismatic worships and listen to testimonies from other active Catholics.One of the best websites is Spiritdaily. Also read the case of “God Answers Prayers Of Paralysed Little Boy” @ theonion/content/node/28812
In this particular case God answered the boy’s prayer and said “No” to him but God suggested that the boy consider praying to one of the other interccesory agents Jesus, Mary or a top saint.So what Catholics practice on invoking the intercessory powers of Mary and saints is truly right all these while and which incidentally is condemned by so called Christians of other denominations.
 
francis_on said:
I personally know of Catholics who leave the Catholic Church to join other denominations.These people have one thing in common ie they don’t know the catholic faith deep enough and worse they criticised the Catholic pratices out of total ignorance . .
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It’s true, it seems that most who leave the Church have never invested themselves in their faith before hand. Never bothered to learn it’s teachings, it’s history, nor it’s spiritual treasures. It’s very sad to see people give up so easily on a faith that is more rich and beautiful and alive than anything they will find outside the Church. 😦
 
alexis_II said:
Hello, I am not Alexis II. I don’t know how I got in here!!
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Well Not-Alexis II, since everything happens for a reason, you are here for a good reason. Might as well weigh in! Surely, you’re not thinking of leaving? Remember the parable of the sower? (Matthew 13:1-9) Well the Catholic church has been tilling and caring for the soil, weeding it and raking rocks out for nearly 2,000 years. Your faith will quickly take deep root here.

Whatever is bothering you RIGHT NOW, offer it up to Jesus and let him do the heavy lifting for you. Praise God, Praise Jesus Christ, Praise the Holy Spirit. Amen.
 
In one OLD Womans opinion.

It goes back to responsibility. Catholics are told, from birth, they are responsible for their actions and thus have to answer to God for them.

Many (not all) Protestants are taught that “once saved always saved” and you are not held responsible for your actions. Or at least that is the perception for many young people that are rebelling against the rules. The “happy clappy” “I’m OK so you are OK” can be very enticing to people so they can “do their own thing”.
 
jedimasterham said:
Atheism is fun, and makes much more sense after many years of catholic school. Just as many morals as any religion or philosophy, and with a scientific background and open mind to new possibilities.

As for my Born Again family members, many of them are biased towards me for having an open mind towards the “Da Vinci Code” and towards practicing Buddhist meditation and supporting evolution.

So I think that being a free thinker with an open mind and no set beliefs is perfect. I’m a Buddhist today, which some would say makes me an Atheist, but I practice compassion every minute of my day, so it all works out. I’d recommend viewing like from the Atheistic side, it’s pretty wonderful.
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Athiesm is fun? I do not know seeings I have never been one, nor desire athiesm. But I reckon Christianity is much more fun. I am never so happy as when I am really in Christ. He blesses all that we do and in Him you just know that even when things go wrong, He is right there besides you sharing your experiences. You know that whatever the problem, it will come right in the end.

In Christ, there is ‘everything’ to look forward to. 😉

The Da Vinci Code is a hoax. Even the author says it is fiction. It is not only fictional it is pourly researched fiction 😃

E.g. the ‘monks of Opus Dei’ 😛 there are no monks. It is a very well respected organisation dedicated to encouraging folk to live more dedicated lives to Christ. Opus Dei is not sinister nor has ever been involved in anything controversial other than 100% authentic service to Christ. 👍
 
Our parish has a 9:00 mass where school-aged children come into the church with their parents. The children stay for a very short while until a teacher announces it is time for them to go to the “Sunday school”. After the homily they all parade back in for the rest of the mass.
I suggest that those “adults” or teens who are not quite ready for prime time Catholicism go along with the children for a session of dancing and singing in a separate room for adults until they are ready to come back for the holiest part of the mass. :rolleyes:
Or another solution for “bored” attendees is to have a “training mass” for those not ready for Catholicism even though they may have been born into the religion. Don’t some religions have a “high” and a “low” version of their religion? This training mass would be similar to RCIA with lots of lectures on the true meaning of the mass…and lots of “fun” music. The object of this mass would be for the attendees to keep up the habit of attending mass even though they are going through a period of doubt and not quite ready to practice “high” Catholicism. These parishioners would not be committing mortal sin by not attending the high version of the mass because they are not emotionally ready. They were born into a religion that they have not accepted into their hearts yet so they should not be going to communion during this state of their development.
I realize this is a strange proposal but…🤷 any thoughts?
 
onetruechurch said:
Our parish has a 9:00 mass where school-aged children come into the church with their parents. The children stay for a very short while until a teacher announces it is time for them to go to the “Sunday school”. After the homily they all parade back in for the rest of the mass.
I suggest that those “adults” or teens who are not quite ready for prime time Catholicism go along with the children for a session of dancing and singing in a separate room for adults until they are ready to come back for the holiest part of the mass. :rolleyes:
Or another solution for “bored” attendees is to have a “training mass” for those not ready for Catholicism even though they may have been born into the religion. Don’t some religions have a “high” and a “low” version of their religion? This training mass would be similar to RCIA with lots of lectures on the true meaning of the mass…and lots of “fun” music. The object of this mass would be for the attendees to keep up the habit of attending mass even though they are going through a period of doubt and not quite ready to practice “high” Catholicism. These parishioners would not be committing mortal sin by not attending the high version of the mass because they are not emotionally ready. They were born into a religion that they have not accepted into their hearts yet so they should not be going to communion during this state of their development.
I realize this is a strange proposal but…🤷 any thoughts?
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I think something along this line is already being attempted in parishes across the country, more geared toward the youth. And a lot of adults do seem to attend these Masses and enjoy them. And if it keeps their faith from faltering until they move on to the next stage in their development, then I think it’s a good thing.

You will also find many Charismatic Catholic Churches, these also have a different tone, more exhuberant. Some people find them horrible, others find them to be just what they need.

We are indeed one Church, one Body with many different members. It would be nice if most remembered that the many members are indeed different from one another. 😉 😃
 
well folks i got to tell ya i’ve attended the church with the best christian rock band youve ever heard every sunday for 7 years. many people come to our church because “it is like being at a concert and you get to worship God” i love the music.
but you know it just ain’t enough.I want the Eucharist!
Give me Jesus!
 
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