Clinton Up 6 on Trump in Two-Way Race in Bloomberg National Poll

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Padres1969 said:
It’s not even the lesser of two evils. There are some on the right who view Clinton as what you’d expect, but view Trump as a very damaging commodity long term for both the right’s agenda and the Republican party. Better to get rid of him quickly right now, then have to drag on with him for 4 or heaven forbid, 8 years. Never mind any even longer term damage.
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After 8 years of Clinton appointees to the Court, and the Repubs (and the Dems) won’t have to worry about their future because their presence in congress and most other political offices will be meaningless. Executive orders, approved by a compliant Supreme Court, will rule the land and we won’t need U.S. legislators or state governors any more.

And never mind the constitution. Bill Clinton’s appointee, Ginsburg, opined that the U.S. Constitution is “outmoded” and that another model should be put in place for it. She rather preferred the constitution of India, which is so vague that it’s just whatever the prevailing court thinks it ought to be. Once the Democrats have a solid majority on the Supreme Court composed of like-minded justices, that’s what we’ll have.
 
And alot of people think that’s a good thing ! They see our Constitution and Bill of Rights as outdated documents that were written by slave holding White males. Oh well, can’t wait for my Alt-Right membership card signed by Vladimir Putin to arrive in the mail.
 
Jeanne_S said:
I agree,or is it more the liberals are given a bit more of a free rein in voicing their opinions?:cool:
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Are you saying that liberals should be censored or that liberals have been censored in the past? That would be unfortunate.
 
dasoul said:
Are you saying that liberals should be censored or that liberals have been censored in the past? That would be unfortunate.
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No,just the opposite,conservative posters’ have been noticeably absent from the forum
 
Ridgerunner said:
After 8 years of Clinton appointees to the Court, and the Repubs (and the Dems) won’t have to worry about their future because their presence in congress and most other political offices will be meaningless. Executive orders, approved by a compliant Supreme Court, will rule the land and we won’t need U.S. legislators or state governors any more.

And never mind the constitution. Bill Clinton’s appointee, Ginsburg, opined that the U.S. Constitution is “outmoded” and that another model should be put in place for it. She rather preferred the constitution of India, which is so vague that it’s just whatever the prevailing court thinks it ought to be. Once the Democrats have a solid majority on the Supreme Court composed of like-minded justices, that’s what we’ll have.
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I wouldn’t worry about that. Whomever wins this election will likely be a one term president. Be it Clinton or Trump.
 
Padres1969 said:
I wouldn’t worry about that. Whomever wins this election will likely be a one term president. Be it Clinton or Trump.
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Impossible to know that, and whoever is elected will tip the balance of the Court due to Scalia’s death.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Impossible to know that, and whoever is elected will tip the balance of the Court due to Scalia’s death.
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Maybe. But I’d point out that some of the most “liberal” justices of the last half century were actually appointed by Republicans. 🤷
 
meltzerboy said:
I doubt Trump thinks so. He may be called (and rightly so) a lot of things, but one of them is not stupid. He is already talking about voter cheating in advance of the election, no doubt as a means of escaping from taking personal responsibility should he lose to Clinton. I am quite sure he realizes what he is up against at the present time. Many of his supporters may be less aware.
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Given his record of business failures, many wouldn’t be surprised if he’s already developed an exit strategy, which of course, would involve turning over the reigns to Pence. (I read this on Quora, by the way.)
 
anon67074017 said:
It is unfortunate that Clinton is winning. The masses have been indoctrinated in supporting the liberal agenda. They do not see that Trump will be the man who will liberate them. I believe that he will defeat liberalism and become the savior of America. He just has to get past Clinton in November for him to implement his plan. I hope that he will free the minds of the masses once he is elected. I want to see liberalism die in this country. The time to defeat it is now.
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I don’t know if liberal/conservative is the best way to describe business failures.
 
Jeanne_S said:
No,just the opposite,conservative posters’ have been noticeably absent from the forum
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It seems like there are more “I agree with this! 👍” posts following a conservative comment than a liberal one, so maybe it is just perception.
 
dasoul said:
It seems like there are more “I agree with this! 👍” posts following a conservative comment than a liberal one, so maybe it is just perception.
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Possibly, but it is remarkable how many conservatives here have stopped defending Trump, which of course is not exactly hard to understand. Even his alleged ‘pro-life position’ is highly questionable and hard to defend, given his background and questionable character. In the previous cycle conservatives at CAF seemed more ready to wholeheartedly support their candidate.
 
Al_Moritz said:
Possibly, but it is remarkable how many conservatives here have stopped defending Trump, which of course is not exactly hard to understand. Even his alleged ‘pro-life position’ is highly questionable and hard to defend, given his background and questionable character. In the previous cycle conservatives at CAF seemed more ready to wholeheartedly support their candidate.
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No what is really remarkable is how many HC supporters continue to sing her praises and give their unabashed support in spite of her proven corrupt( and that is being charitable) record.Wow! What a sad commentary on the state of this country that she may very well be our nextvPOTUS.Unbelievable,really.
 
I think a quick comparison of the 2012 and 2016 presidential polls is a pretty good indicator of how much the forum has changed.
 
By the way, following up on my previous post:

In the same vein it is stunning how not a single Republican in a leadership position has defended Trump against Hillary’s attacks in her speech yesterday about Trump’s racism and his involvement with the Alt Right. NOBODY. This is unheard of, that no leadership Republican comes to the defense of their nominee following a major attack on him.

The silence is deafening. Of course, it is hard to defend the indefensible.

See also:
mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/26/sound-silence-no-republican-leaders-have-defended-trump-after-clinton-linked-him-alt-right/212695
 
gilliam said:
The findings suggest damage has been done to one of Trump’s main calling cards, his business expertise.

bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-10/bloomberg-politics-national-poll
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Trump has sabotaged his own chances much more than anything else. He is not a politician. It is his election to lose - and he is making a fine job of it. The fact that he is still within striking distance with three months to go, given his negatives and the massive effort against him - left and right establishment, media, Hollywood - says it all. Can you imagine where a competent GOP candidate like Rubio would be now in the polls - 10-20% up or something, my guess.

I don’t think it’s time to drop the curtains on ole Trump, but it is close. If I were a Clinton supporter I would be feeling pretty good right now. The only thing is this is such a strange election cycle - I really don’t think you can compare it to anything else. It is completely reasonable to believe Clinton has it; I am kind of curious to see though if that is the case; a few weeks of the country thinking it’s over could be the best thing that ever happened to the Trump campaign. The last gift that saves him.
 
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