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[pablope]

Paul just wasn’t talking to them, he was preaching the true word of God. How can Paul preach the truth of God’s word, on the wrong day of worship.
Paul preached **every **Sabbath to the Jews and Gentiles. That means that Paul preached for at least 84 Sabbaths.
Why would Paul preach to the Greeks on the Sabbath both in the synagogue and by a river side if Sunday was the day of worship. If Sunday was the day of worship, why preach to the Gentiles on the Sabbath, if God wanted Sunday as a day to honor Him. By continuing to preach on the Sabbath this would be disobeying God. When Paul was persuading the Greeks, why would he teach them about the truth of Jesus on the wrong day of the week to worship.

The breaking of bread was a daily custom amongst the Jews. I think you are assuming in this verse that the breaking of bread means that it meant Mass.

So what if there is only one verse? The Bible is just one way to know, there is also the practice of the Apostles, which they did not write but was handed down. Read the Didache…it is the earliest form of worship instruction to early catholics.

As I previously stated, Paul preaching on the Sabbath does not mean he was worshipping. He was being smart so that he could reach the most jews, and what better day to do this than on the day of worship.

When Paul was persuading the Greeks, why would he teach them about the truth of Jesus on the wrong day of the week to worship

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Because they have not converted yet. And since they have not converted yet, what would be their day of worship? So, Paul, to convert them, would be preaching about Christ on their day of worship, where they would be gathering.

And after they converted, what was their day of worship? [SIGN]SUNDAY. [/SIGN]

 

[pablope]

With respect, we have one verse in the bible which talks about the disciples coming together on Sunday to hear Paul preach. There are no other verses in the bible about the disciples preaching or worshiping to Jews, or Greeks on Sunday. Luke records that the Sabbath day of worship is observed during his time ( at least 40 years after the crucifixion of Jesus). (Luk 23:56) And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke does not say and rested on the Sabbath “that was” according to the commandment.

written with love

So what if there is only one verse? The Bible is just one way to know, there is also the practice of the Apostles, which they did not write but was handed down. Read the Didache…it is the earliest form of worship instruction to early catholics.

As I previously stated, Paul preaching on the Sabbath does not mean he was worshipping. He was being smart so that he could reach the most jews, and what better day to do this than on the day of worship.

You asked:

Quote:
When Paul was persuading the Greeks, why would he teach them about the truth of Jesus on the wrong day of the week to worship

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Because they have not converted yet. And since they have not converted yet, what would be their day of worship? So, Paul, to convert them, would be preaching about Christ on their day of worship, where they would be gathering.

And after they converted, what was their day of worship? [SIGN]SUNDAY.[/SIGN]

So what about Luke 23:56? This is taking about the day after crucifixion, and the women bringing spices, according to Jewish custom, to prepare Jesus body in the tomb. But they do not see Jesus, right?

I do not know what you are implying or trying to justify with this verse. This is merely an account of events at the time of Resurrection. This is before Pentecost.

 

[pablope]

Paul just wasn’t talking to them, he was preaching the true word of God. How can Paul preach the truth of God’s word, on the wrong day of worship.
Paul preached **every **Sabbath to the Jews and Gentiles. That means that Paul preached for at least 84 Sabbaths.
Why would Paul preach to the Greeks on the Sabbath both in the synagogue and by a river side if Sunday was the day of worship. If Sunday was the day of worship, why preach to the Gentiles on the Sabbath, if God wanted Sunday as a day to honor Him. By continuing to preach on the Sabbath this would be disobeying God. When Paul was persuading the Greeks, why would he teach them about the truth of Jesus on the wrong day of the week to worship.

The breaking of bread was a daily custom amongst the Jews. I think you are assuming in this verse that the breaking of bread means that it meant Mass.

By the way, you did not answer my question in post 424. Here it is for convenience:

[SIGN]Let me ask you a question:

If you wanted to convert Catholics, and you know they went to worship on Sundays, would you try to talk to them on a Monday, Saturday, Friday? Or would you rather maximize your time and effort and go talk to them on Sundays, after Mass?[/SIGN]

 

[realpatience]

While it is true that the Jewish/Hebrew calendar measured (and measaures) days from sundown to sundown - so the “first day of the week” would include both saturday evening and all day Sunday until Sunday evening (i) writings of the earliest christians (going back to the first and second century and historical writings of Jewiish non-believers from that same period, show us that the “Christians” met on “sunday” - the first day of the week and (ii) the Catholic Church also has masses on Saturday evening in satisfaction of the Sunday mass (because it is the “same day”) as you point out.

What BTTG was suggesting was that Christians worshiped on the “Sabbath” (and not on the “first day of the week” (Saturday evening or Sunday) - In either case, Saturday evening or Sunday would not be the “Sabbath” (7th day Sabbath) -but rather, the “first day of the week”.

Blessings,

Brian

How do I know these “Christians” referred to were not those who “went out from us” because “they were not of us” (1 John 2:19)? I want to make sure I follow only what Christ and His Apostles taught.

The way I look at it, while it may be true that there were people worshipping on Sunday in the first century, we cannot be certain that these people were true Christians. Even as early as 50 A.D. (or thereabouts) there were already apostates, pretenders and false teachers in the Church, as St. Paul had warned in 2 Thessalonians to “let no one deceive you by any means” because “the mystery of iniquity doth already work.”

I take St. Paul’s warning to heart and so I take every precaution not to be deceived. I make it a point to check all teachings against what is written in the Bible, following the example of the Bereans (Acts 17) who were praised for being “more noble than those in Thessalonica” because they “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things [the things Paul taught them] were so.”

 

[realpatience]

Sunday was/is the first day of the week, being the day of the Resurrection. The Jewish Sabbath starts sundown/sunset on a Friday and ends on sundown/sunset Saturday.

Here is the vers 7:

7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.

I think you are assuming too much in inferring they met on Saturday night.

Here is a transliteration:

We met on Sunday to worship and celebrate the Master’s Supper. Paul addressed the congregation. Our plan was to leave first thing in the morning, but Paul talked on, way past midnight. We were meeting in a well-lighted upper room.

Looks like they met anytime on a Sunday, with Paul speaking way past midnight. They still left the next morning, with little sleep.

But the point is, they met on a Sunday to worship. BTTG is, I believe a SDA, and believes the day of worship should be Saturday.

With due respect, Sunday is technically not the same as the first day of the week [of the Jews] since Sunday is counted from midnight to midnight. And there was no assumption made in putting that meeting on a Saturday night. I think Robbinson is with me that this was a Saturday night meeting?

Notice that days in the Bible (not just the Sabbath day) start at sundown and end at sundown. So, when it says “upon the first day of the week” – meaning, when the first day of the week came – the time period referred to is sundown [the start of a new day], in this case, sundown of the first day of the week which in our time is Saturday evening, about 6 pm. If this was Sunday evening, this would have been the second day of the week [since Sunday starts midnight of the first day of the week and ends at midnight of the second day].

It says that where the disciples were gathered, “there were many lights in the upper chamber” showing that it was evening when they were gathered together – the evening of the first day of the week, or Saturday night – the start of the first day of the week. After they had their evening meal, Paul preached and kept preaching “until midnight” – that’s midnight of Saturday, going into Sunday, a new day for us but not to them since we start our days at midnight. When Paul stopped preaching it was still the first day of the week, but in our time it was the start of Sunday (just past midnight).

Here’s the translation from the Good News Bible: “On Saturday evening we gathered together for the fellowship meal…”

 

[adrift]

With respect, we have one verse in the bible which talks about the disciples coming together on Sunday to hear Paul preach. There are no other verses in the bible about the disciples preaching or worshiping to Jews, or Greeks on Sunday. Luke records that the Sabbath day of worship is observed during his time ( at least 40 years after the crucifixion of Jesus). (Luk 23:56) And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke does not say and rested on the Sabbath “that was” according to the commandment.

written with love

You have confused me some. Luke records that the Sabbath was observed 40 years later? I would agree that some still observed the Sabbath but that would not eliminate that they also worshiped on Sunday

Colossians 2:

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day:
17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ’s.

From this scripture we see that there was a controversy similar to that of circumcision and like circumcision it was no longer considered obligatory. As far as Luke 23:56 is concerned it proves nothing accept a good writing style.

1 Corinthians Chapter 16

1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I gave order to the churches of Galatia, so also do ye.2 Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Why did Paul choose Sunday? It indicates an importance to Sunday. The Christians were told to collect money for the Church at a time they would be gathered together.

 

[Ignatius]

With due respect, Sunday is technically not the same as the first day of the week [of the Jews] since Sunday is counted from midnight to midnight. the start of Sunday (just past midnight).

Here’s the translation from the Good News Bible: “On Saturday evening we gathered together for the fellowship meal…”

Actually, at that time Sunday was counted from sundown Saturday.
Also the Good News Bible is a very poor translation. Let’s stick to the KJV 1611 to keep faithful to the original.

 

[BTTG]

You have confused me some. Luke records that the Sabbath was observed 40 years later? I would agree that some still observed the Sabbath but that would not eliminate that they also worshiped on Sunday

Response - So we agree that both Gentiles and Jews, including Luke being a gentile new that the Sabbath(Saturday) is a day of worship. However, other then the one verse in Acts, when the apostles came together, we do not read any other scriptures that indicate people gathered for worship on Sunday.

Colossians 2:

From this scripture we see that there was a controversy similar to that of circumcision and like circumcision it was no longer considered obligatory. As far as Luke 23:56 is concerned it proves nothing accept a good writing style.

Response - would you please elaborate on your comment…thank you

1 Corinthians Chapter 16

Why did Paul choose Sunday? It indicates an importance to Sunday. The Christians were told to collect money for the Church at a time they would be gathered together.

Response - I don’t want to sound redundant, but you are adding your thoughts into scripture. You are assuming that all are gathered together on Sunday for this collection and that a collection plate was passed around. You are assuming that the collection was that of monetary means…could it also have been for food and clothing? The verse reads " On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper." The expression “lay by him in store” in the original Greek gives the clear connotation of putting aside at home.

"** First of all, the letter would have been shared with the church on the Sabbath when they were all gathered for worship. The first opportunity to do the work would be the next day - the first day of the week. Keep in mind that there was an apparent food shortage in Jerusalem, and the need was not primarily for money. Such famine conditions were not unusual in areas of the Middle East, as Luke reminds us in Acts 11:28-30.

The church in Rome gives a clue as to the special needs of those suffering Christians “But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.” Romans 15:25-28.

Here the apostle touches a tender spot in his eloquent appeal. The Roman Christians owed a great debt of gratitude to the mother church in Jerusalem which had sent teachers to evangelize them. Paul urges them to return carnal, or material, gifts in appreciation of the spiritual truths received from them. What kind of gifts did Paul have in mind? It is very interesting that he describes it as sealing to them “this fruit.” The Greek word used here is “karpos,” which is the universal term used for literal fruit. It can also have the connotation of “fruits of one’s labor.”

This throws light on Paul’s counsel to the Corinthian Christians to do their work on the first day of the week, “so that there be no gatherings when I come.” Such work as gathering and storing up produce from garden and field would certainly not be appropriate on Sabbath. In these verses, Sunday is identified once again as a day for secular activities and gives no indication of religious observance.- commentary A.F.
**
written with love

 

[BTTG]

adrift:
The sabbath command is the only one of the Ten Commandments which can be altered in any way, because only it is a part of the ceremonial law. This is taught by the Roman Catechism issued after the Council of Trent:

**Response- Sabbath, nor any of the 10 commandments cannot be altered…(Mat 5:18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Mat 5:19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

We read in Lev. 20 regarding the ceremonial laws that …(Lev 20:10) And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. The same can be said about idols and molded gods.

According to your statement, this means that adultery, images of gods, can also be altered for it was a ceremonial law and also one of the 10 commandments.
**

written with love

 

[BTTG]

So what if there is only one verse? The Bible is just one way to know, there is also the practice of the Apostles, which they did not write but was handed down. Read the Didache…it is the earliest form of worship instruction to early catholics.

As I previously stated, Paul preaching on the Sabbath does not mean he was worshipping. He was being smart so that he could reach the most jews, and what better day to do this than on the day of worship.

You asked:

.

Because they have not converted yet. And since they have not converted yet, what would be their day of worship? So, Paul, to convert them, would be preaching about Christ on their day of worship, where they would be gathering.

And after they converted, what was their day of worship? [SIGN]SUNDAY.[/SIGN]

So what about Luke 23:56? This is taking about the day after crucifixion, and the women bringing spices, according to Jewish custom, to prepare Jesus body in the tomb. But they do not see Jesus, right?

I do not know what you are implying or trying to justify with this verse. This is merely an account of events at the time of Resurrection. This is before Pentecost.

**What I am trying to explain is that Luke, who wrote his book 40 years after the crucifixion of Jesus, states that during his time he still observed the Sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke stated that the women rested according to the Sabbath. Luke did not say according to the Sabbath commandment that was observed at the time of the OT.

Does that make sense?

written with love**

 

[adrift]

**What I am trying to explain is that Luke, who wrote his book 40 years after the crucifixion of Jesus, states that during his time he still observed the Sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke stated that the women rested according to the Sabbath. Luke did not say according to the Sabbath commandment that was observed at the time of the OT.

Does that make sense?

written with love**

I understand what you are stating but the problem is that he was writing about the Resurrection. He uses an active voice but that does not translate to the Sabbath being observed and Sunday not. I believe that both were observed. I believe there was a controversy otherwise

Colossians 2:

 

[adrift]

adrift;7575389:

You have confused me some. Luke records that the Sabbath was observed 40 years later? I would agree that some still observed the Sabbath but that would not eliminate that they also worshiped on Sunday

Response - So we agree that both Gentiles and Jews, including Luke being a gentile new that the Sabbath(Saturday) is a day of worship. However, other then the one verse in Acts, when the apostles came together, we do not read any other scriptures that indicate people gathered for worship on Sunday.

No. What I believe is those who were attached to the old law which had been abolished, continued with sabbath. Luke did not worship on Saturday but Sunday.

Colossians 2:

From this scripture we see that there was a controversy similar to that of circumcision and like circumcision it was no longer considered obligatory. As far as Luke 23:56 is concerned it proves nothing accept a good writing style.

Response - would you please elaborate on your comment…thank you

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day:
17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ’s.

Paul is saying that no one should be judged for eating meat or dring or a sabbath day. Why would someone be judged unless there was some controversy? What controversy would there be about the sabbath. Why would there be judging.

Response - I don’t want to sound redundant, but you are adding your thoughts into scripture. You are assuming that all are gathered together on Sunday for this collection and that a collection plate was passed around. You are assuming that the collection was that of monetary means…could it also have been for food and clothing? The verse reads " On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up

as he may prosper." The expression “lay by him in store” in the original Greek gives the clear connotation of putting aside at home.
You are making the assumption that it wasn’t.

1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I gave order to the churches of Galatia, so also do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come. 3 And when I arrive, whomsoever ye shall approve, them will I send with letters to carry your bounty unto Jerusalem

1. The collection is for the community.(Now concerning the collection for the saints)
2. It is to be collected on the first day of the week. Why? That is when everyone will be together to break bread.
3. The collection is to be ready when Paul comes. Paul will send it to Jerusalem.

"** First of all, the letter would have been shared with the church on the Sabbath when they were all gathered for worship. The first opportunity to do the work would be the next day - the first day of the week. Keep in mind that there was an apparent food shortage in Jerusalem, and the need was not primarily for money. Such famine conditions were not unusual in areas of the Middle East, as Luke reminds us in Acts 11:28-30. **

This is a supposition on your part.

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karpos
karpouV
2590 karpos {kar-pos’} probably from the base of 726; TDNT - 3:614,416; n m 1) fruit 1a) the fruit of the trees, vines, of the fields 1b) the fruit of one’s loins, i.e. his progeny, his posterity 2) that which originates or comes from something, an effect, result 2a) work, act, deed 2b) advantage, profit, utility 2c) praises, which are presented to God as a thank offering 2d) to gather fruit (i.e. a reaped harvest) into life eternal (as into a granary), is used in fig. discourse of those who by their labours have fitted souls to obtain eternal life

You are making a supposition that it was food only that was sent. How would they have been able to transport without spoilage. It doesn’t say harvest it says collection. Collection means to gather together.

 

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[adrift]

The sabbath command is the only one of the Ten Commandments which can be altered in any way, because only it is a part of the ceremonial law. This is taught by the Roman Catechism issued after the Council of Trent:

**Response- Sabbath, nor any of the 10 commandments cannot be altered…(Mat 5:18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Mat 5:19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

We read in Lev. 20 regarding the ceremonial laws that …(Lev 20:10) And the man that committee adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committee adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. The same can be said about idols and molded gods.

According to your statement, this means that adultery, images of gods, can also be altered for it was a ceremonial law and also one of the 10 commandments.
**

written with love

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law***, till all things be accomplished***.]

All was accomplished on the Cross. We are no longer under the law. Romans 6:14 I think you misunderstand what is JUST a ceremonial law.
Put it another way. Without the 10 commandments we may know by natural means what is wrong. However, there is not natural way of knowing that we should worship on any particular day. It isn’t a moral law which adultery is.

 

[pablope]

**What I am trying to explain is that Luke, who wrote his book 40 years after the crucifixion of Jesus, states that during his time he still observed the Sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke stated that the women rested according to the Sabbath. Luke did not say according to the Sabbath commandment that was observed at the time of the OT.

Does that make sense?

written with love**

Adrift addressed you query in post 441. I will just hasten to add the Luke 23:56 speaks of the day after the resurrection, not an event 40 years or so after the resurrection. I think you are confused and is the one trying to force something to justify something to yourself.

And still, you not answered by question in post 424 and 433, and here it is again:

[SIGN]**Let me ask you a question:

If you wanted to convert Catholics, and you know they went to worship on Sundays, would you try to talk to them on a Monday, Saturday, Friday? Or would you rather maximize your time and effort and go talk to them on Sundays, after Mass?**[/SIGN]

 

[pablope]

adrift;7575389:

You have confused me some. Luke records that the Sabbath was observed 40 years later? I would agree that some still observed the Sabbath but that would not eliminate that they also worshiped on Sunday

Response - So we agree that both Gentiles and Jews, including Luke being a gentile new that the Sabbath(Saturday) is a day of worship. However, other then the one verse in Acts, when the apostles came together, we do not read any other scriptures that indicate people gathered for worship on Sunday.

written with love

Catholic teaching does not depend on one verse. There is a full understanding with both the Scripture and the teachings or Traditions of the apostles, taken together.

It does not depend also on how many times something is mentioned in the Bible. If it did, then it would be unreliable, and would be a tradition born of men.

I have informed you in previous posts that Paul was preaching to jews who have not converted yet, hence, the accounts show him mostly preaching on Sabbath to those who have not converted.

But there is a difference in Acts 20:7-11 which you fail to notice.

7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight… 11When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.

In verse 7 he preaches to his disciples, then in verse 11, he breaks bread. His disciples are those who have converted.

This is the earliest form of the** MASS.**

This is the new form of worship. Verse 7 is the Liturgy of the Word and Verse 11 is the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

Check the other accounts of Paul’s preaching during the Sabbath. Does the account include something similar to Verse11: breaking of the bread after preaching.

 

[Robbinson]

This thread has come full circle.

Paul worshiped and preached on Saturday (because to the jews be became as a Jew, and to the Gentile, as a Gentile/Greek - his words) and he worshiped on Sunday.

The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week - the “first day of the week” is Sunday (including Saturday after sundown - but that is “not” the Sabbath).

The Sabbath commandment is fulfilled in our rest in Christ (book of Hebrews). Acts shows us that the Christians gathered on Sunday - contemporaneous historical writings (of both Jews and Christians) shows us that Christians gathered for woship (and in fact, the Eucharist) on Sunday. The Didache - the earliest surviving christian theology document (outside of scripture) shows us that the Christians worshiped on Sunday.

The “Church” was and is apostolic - built on the teachings of the apostles as passed down through the laying of hands - acknowledgement of this authority and recognition of authority is evidenced again, in scripture in various verses showing the laying of hands and passing of authority (given by jesus to the original apostles ) to their successors and in early writings of christians showing a respect for apostolic authority and in the early counsels which formed the core doctrines of Christianity accepted by virtually all denominations today.

Messianic Jews and JW’s and SDAs have “liberty” to worship on Saturday - we all have liberty to worship ever day - but the Sabbath is fulfilled in Christ. The Catholic Church teaches that the “solmenity of the Sabbath” (not the Sabbath it self) was transferred to Sunday.

Blessings,

Brian

 

[adrift]

Adrift addressed you query in post 441. I will just hasten to add the Luke 23:56 speaks of the day after the resurrection, not an event 40 years or so after the resurrection. I think you are confused and is the one trying to force something to justify something to yourself.

And still, you not answered by question in post 424 and 433, and here it is again:

[SIGN]**Let me ask you a question:

If you wanted to convert Catholics, and you know they went to worship on Sundays, would you try to talk to them on a Monday, Saturday, Friday? Or would you rather maximize your time and effort and go talk to them on Sundays, after Mass?**[/SIGN]

This thread has come full circle.

Paul worshiped and preached on Saturday (because to the jews be became as a Jew, and to the Gentile, as a Gentile/Greek - his words) and he worshiped on Sunday.

The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week - the “first day of the week” is Sunday (including Saturday after sundown - but that is “not” the Sabbath).

The Sabbath commandment is fulfilled in our rest in Christ (book of Hebrews). Acts shows us that the Christians gathered on Sunday - contemporaneous historical writings (of both Jews and Christians) shows us that Christians gathered for woship (and in fact, the Eucharist) on Sunday. The Didache - the earliest surviving christian theology document (outside of scripture) shows us that the Christians worshiped on Sunday.

The “Church” was and is apostolic - built on the teachings of the apostles as passed down through the laying of hands - acknowledgement of this authority and recognition of authority is evidenced again, in scripture in various verses showing the laying of hands and passing of authority (given by jesus to the original apostles ) to their successors and in early writings of christians showing a respect for apostolic authority and in the early counsels which formed the core doctrines of Christianity accepted by virtually all denominations today.

Messianic Jews and JW’s and SDAs have “liberty” to worship on Saturday - we all have liberty to worship ever day - but the Sabbath is fulfilled in Christ. The Catholic Church teaches that the “solmenity of the Sabbath” (not the Sabbath it self) was transferred to Sunday.

Blessings,

Brian

Both of these excellant post point to the explanation of why Paul preached on the Sabbath but worshiped on Sunday.

 

[realpatience]

Actually, at that time Sunday was counted from sundown Saturday.
Also the Good News Bible is a very poor translation. Let’s stick to the KJV 1611 to keep faithful to the original.

With due respect, it wouldn’t matter if Sunday at that time (assuming the Romans already named the days as they are now) was counted from sundown. We count Sunday from midnight now, not sundown. And the Sunday in the commandment of the Catholic Church to, “Keep holy the Lord’s Day, Sunday” is counted as we currently count our days, from midnight.

As for the GNB, yes, you’re right about it being a poor translation. But that’s true of all Bibles in modern English because the translation has to be done meaning-for-meaning (unlike the KJV and Douay-Rheims which is word-for-word).

The reason why I used it here was mainly to show that another modern English translation renders the text as “Saturday night,” and not “Sunday.” I also thought that the GNB is acceptable to all Catholics as my Catholic friends use this translation. (In fact, I once had to point out to them that the phrase found in Mark 7 – “In saying this, Jesus declared that all foods are fit to be eaten” – is not found in the original Greek and was only added by the translators as their understanding of what Jesus taught in the preceding text.)

 

[Ignatius]

Ignatius;7575488:

realpatience:

With due respect, Sunday is technically not the same as the first day of the week [of the Jews] since Sunday is counted from midnight to midnight. the start of Sunday (just past midnight).

Actually, at that time Sunday was counted from sundown Saturday.
Also the Good News Bible is a very poor translation. Let’s stick to the KJV 1611 to keep faithful to the original.

With due respect, it wouldn’t matter if Sunday at that time (assuming the Romans already named the days as they are now) was counted from sundown.

If it dosn’t matter, then why did you state, incorrectly, that it was counted from midnight? The truth is important simply because it is the truth, inaccurate statments lead to incorrect results.