Common Sense Alcohol Reform

[Darryl_B]

My friend, you have obviously had time to think this one chew.

 

[Entwhistler]

True. The joke was playing on historical Methodist stereotypes more than anything.

 

[JanSobieskiIII]

I doubt that, the people that would drink under 21 are already drinking.

I started at around 15 and it being legal at 18 wouldn’t have made any difference for me.

 

[Pup7]

Laughing because the Methodists are anything but Puritan in the 21st century. Holy smokes.

Puritans certainly did drink. Beer, being fermented, was far safer to drink than a lot of water.

The time when Americans drank all day long - BBC News

I don’t know but, while I think it is fine for people under 21 to drink, I am not eager to see the age lowered. The day it is lowered, a bunch of people are going to go nuts with it and drink stupidly. It would be a busy day at the ER.

And that’s part of the problem. I’m married to a Brit, where the drinking age for beer is 18. They don’t have the problems with alcohol and kids that we do. In fact, from the small amount I know, most of Europe doesn’t. It’s a cultural thing.

True. The joke was playing on historical Methodist stereotypes more than anything.

Oh, I know. I was mostly laughing because I can remember giving the Baptist kids grief about dancing in the era of Footloose.

(Yay!! I got quoting to work. )

 

[TheOldColonel]

Indeed. My dog.

 

[hoping4more]

You could say he was drunk on Jihad…

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[LilyM]

I would suggest banning cars. They are just too dangerous.

Well it’s not like I can get a six-pack of cars for a few dollars. The very expense involved in owning a car is something of an incentive to.drive sensibly.

 

[Darryl_B]

Laughing because the Methodists are anything but Puritan in the 21st century. Holy smokes.

Most things don’t look the same as when they were birthed.

 

[Pup7]

Of course they don’t. It still struck me as funny.

 

[Maximilian75]

Renting a car? If you plan on your trip being ‘one-way’, so to speak, you really don’t care if you damage your Enterprise or U-Haul rental…

 

[Darryl_B]

Puritans certainly did drink. Beer, being fermented, was far safer to drink than a lot of water.

I agree with this, my question was more around whether they “loved” beer in the sense of Lutherans, or whether they just found it a necessary evil.

 

[Darryl_B]

Yes. It would require an entire forum of its own to ask the question “What on earth happened to the Methodists”.

 

[whyeyeman]

I don’t know what the laws are like in the US, but in the UK, before liberalisation by Margaret Thatcher, we had some rather sensible laws governing alcohol consumption.
Pubs were restricted to limited opening hours, public drinking and intoxication were illegal, and supply of alcohol was limited to only a few (compared to now) shops.

I think this is a very sensible way to limit alcohol consumption and ite negative consequences while still keeping it legal.

 

[ATraveller]

Increase Mather, a prominent Puritan minister of the period, delivered a sermon in which he described alcohol as being “a good creature of God” - although the drunkard was “of the devil.”

I would interpret that quote from Pup7’s link as moderate consumption was approved.

 

[Entwhistler]

Ben Franklin said that beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

 

[Cruciferi]

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Hooray for Beer

 

[Darryl_B]

Thanks. The only mention I had seen before this

Monday, the 25th day, we went on shore, some to fell drink water aboard, but at night the master caused us to have some beer, and so on board we had divers times now and then some beer, but on shore none at all.

Which gives the impression that it was for the voyage only as a necessity of the long voyage, and it sounds almost forced upon them by the master.

 

[jimsnew]

I have a Malinois also, she is a kid-loving pet, but has also been trained in protection and bitework since she was 5 months old. She also sleeps in the bed with us or sometimes next to the bed. I also have about 40 various firearms, and shoot in the neighborhood of 10-15000 rounds a year and have since I was in my 20’s. None of them have killed anyone.

There are a bunch of critters from all over the US, Canada, and Africa that haven’t been particularly fond of them.

That’s the problem with gun control in general. The folks that you don’t have to worry about anyway follow the law, the ones that are predisposed to do something bad don’t care about breaking a minor gun control law anyway, so in a nutshell, it only has an effect on people who don’t need regulation.

 

[twf]

That’s no longer a beer . That’s a cocktail. And you can find better white ales than big names like Blue Moon! (But it will do in a pinch).

 

[Cruciferi]

Any recommendations?