Connecticut school shooting: Lawmakers offer prayers amid calls for gun control

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Wow, if our friends on the left only took the guidance of our Bishops on abortion and religious freedom as seriously as they do on gun control…
As bishops, we support measures that control the sale and use of firearms and make them safer – especially efforts that prevent their unsupervised use by children or anyone other than the owner – and we reiterate our call for sensible regulation of handguns.
old.usccb.org/sdwp/criminal.shtml#policy

We could probably end those things pretty quicly…:cool:
 
It seems to lack a qualification for some to be allowed to kill. That is what is coming across with your posts. The greatest majority of all your posts seems to convey that message.
Tell us why you want to prevent a teacher or any adult with (or without) a a state CC license, from stopping someone that’s killing the children?
 
Why would a teacher with (or without) a a state CC license, not be allowed to kill someone killing the children?
Why not be honest and provide the Gospel teaching that supports killing, or an eye for an eye, as your arguments seem to support?

Your argument to arm teachers only puts more children at risk, should they, or others, take possession of the gun.
 
Tell us why you want to prevent a teacher or any adult with (or without) a a state CC license, from stopping someone that’s killing the children?
I see another public shooting has taken place. The shooter was stopped by a policeman. Should we consider it ‘lucky’ that only 3 people were shot, and only wounded? What would have been an acceptable number of children killed in this incident in Conn.?
 
Why not be honest and provide the Gospel teaching that supports killing, or an eye for an eye, as your arguments seem to support?

Your argument to arm teachers only puts more children at risk, should they, or others, take possession of the gun.
I already did; Thou shall not kill.

You avoided telling us why you want to prevent a teacher or any adult with (or without) a a state CC license, from stopping someone that’s killing the children?
 
People are offering up solutions to this tragedy
There isn’t one
Evil people exist…they always will
Some people are simply born broken
They want to rape, kill, hurt…whatever
You can prepare for them and look out for them and do your best to be vigilant
But you can’t legislate them or counsel them not to be broken
All you can do for them is …pray
 
I already did; Thou shall not kill.

Tell us why you want to prevent a teacher or any adult with (or without) a a state CC license, from stopping someone that’s killing the children?
Ok, let’s say a teacher had the gun and did stop the shooter in this instance. How many children deaths would have been an acceptable number, assuming the armed teacher was in the exact vicinity at the time? Or, how many killed in a crossfire would have been acceptable?

On the Gospel message, it seems you’re overlooking the new teaching Christ gave on the ‘eye for an eye’ laws.
 
People are offering up solutions to this tragedy
There isn’t one
Evil people exist…they always will
Some people are simply born broken
They want to rape, kill, hurt…whatever
You can prepare for them and look out for them and do your best to be vigilant
But you can’t legislate them or counsel them not to be broken
All you can do for them is …pray
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…and do the best you can to protect them
 
Tell us why you want to prevent a teacher or any adult with (or without) a a state CC license, from stopping someone that’s killing the children?
Another point, is it your opinion to word posts to say something someone did not say is an honest discussion? I wished this shooter had been stopped, or never began his spree. I never said anyone should be stopped, but come short of wanting to arm every single person in the world, which I believe takes us back to the ole west.
 
Once again, it’s the** culture of Death** not guns…but good luck getting some one-track minded individuals to see that. :rolleyes:

I think I’m going to ask my girlfriend if she wouldn’t mind leaving the country with all of these agenda-driven people in it, who seek magic bullets to solve our societal ills and ignore the 5,000 lb pink elephant in the room…the society itself.

Y’all are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
 
Ok, let’s say a teacher had the gun and did stop the shooter in this instance. How many children deaths would have been an acceptable number, assuming the armed teacher was in the exact vicinity at the time? Or, how many killed in a crossfire would have been acceptable?

On the Gospel message, it seems you’re overlooking the new teaching Christ gave on the ‘eye for an eye’ laws.
The lowest number possible.

You’re really grasping for straws now…

Self defense or defense of others is not "eye for eye (revenge). Never has been

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Once again, it’s the** culture of Death** not guns…but good luck getting some one-track minded individuals to see that. :rolleyes:

I think I’m going to ask my girlfriend if she wouldn’t mind leaving the country with all of these goofy people in it, who seek magic bullets to solve our societal ills and ignore the 5,000 lb pink elephant in the room…the society itself.

Y’all are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
So, we leave the tools specifically designed to kill accessible to those who go off?

Can you not see that allowing every type weapon to be owned is a part of the culture of death?
 
Once again, it’s the** culture of Death** not guns…but good luck getting some one-track minded individuals to see that. :rolleyes:

I think I’m going to ask my girlfriend if she wouldn’t mind leaving the country with all of these agenda-driven people in it, who seek magic bullets to solve our societal ills and ignore the 5,000 lb pink elephant in the room…the society itself.

Y’all are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
And is arming everyone to the teeth with guns not a part of the culture of death?
 
You grasping for straws.

Self defense or defense of others is not "eye for eye (revenge).
No one is grasping for straws, except those unwilling to have more controls placed on gun ownership.

When Peter drew the sword to protect the Lord, Jesus stopped him. Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. Guns are yesterday’s swords.
 
No one is grasping for straws, except those unwilling to have more controls placed on gun ownership.

When Peter drew the sword to protect the Lord, Jesus stopped him. Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. Guns are yesterday’s swords.
So you agree that self defense is not revenge?

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The lowest number possible.

You grasping for straws.

Self defense or defense of others is not "eye for eye (revenge).
You edited, after my other response. So, there is an acceptable loss of children in the scenario you ‘imagine’? :rolleyes:

I don’t see gun rights as more important than any child, or group of children. I find it appalling, and revealing, that you think there is an acceptable loss of children for your gun rights to be maintained.
 
So, we leave the tools specifically designed to kill accessible to those who go off?

Can you not see that allowing every type weapon to be owned is a part of the culture of death?
Until you change the culture that seeks to dehumanize life through television, movies, music and video games…you’re just putting new sails on a rotting ship.

Once again if it’s not guns it will be something else…but you wish not to see that, you wish not to think through your arguments and look ahead…you and neither do the CCW-agenda pushers…Y’all don’t want to see ahead cause y’all are blind to the true cause of all of this.

We have devalued human life in this nation, so it’s no surprise to see human life be treated so carelessly and without remorse.
 
You are not thinking this through. I agree with what you are saying, and sadly I agree more strict guns laws will not help. We need a foundational shift to change this culture to one that respects all life…buuuut, we cannot get that shift unless we try. We must give something big to get something big!
If a lunatic is intent on killing many people, more gun laws will not deter him. There are more ways to kill than with guns. 9/11 was accomplished with box cutters. Oklahoma was done with bombs. The Mad Bomber used exploding packages. The crazy in Syria is using sarin gas.

Hitler was successful murdering people because he confiscated their guns. No guns, no way to protect yourself against a lunatic government. And please don’t be so naive to think that can’t happen here.
 
So you agree that self defense is not revenge?

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Depends on which discussion you’ve posted in. In this case it would not have been revenge, but would have been living by the sword. Christ taught against that brother.
 
You edited, after my other response. So, there is an acceptable loss of children in the scenario you ‘imagine’? :rolleyes:

I don’t see gun rights as more important than any child, or group of children. I find it appalling, and revealing, that you think there is an acceptable loss of children for your gun rights to be maintained.
No I didn’t. My response was the lowest number of deaths possible

Nice try. 🙂

It appears you now agree that self defense is not revenge? Maybe we’re making some progress.
 
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