Connecticut school shooting: Lawmakers offer prayers amid calls for gun control

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Better to have one in the classroom who is aiming for the shooter than only having a shooter who is aiming for the kids.
Sure, one bullet at the would-be shooter and he returns 20 bullets back.
You say this as if he wasn’t already shooting kids. Any bullets shot at him when he first aimed his gun would have at least improved the chances of stopping him. But instead, he was able to massacre all the kids in the class with zero resistance because it was a “gun free zone”. If the other teachers and staff had guns to fight back, a few might have died before he would have been stopped, but he wouldn’t have had the time to kill 20 kids.
 
First I found it on page 5. Without a mention of the source of the data, or study… nothing. 40% Just made up whole cloth.
Wrong. The data is from the ATF as the source notes.
Criminals are NOT buyin their weapons at gun shows!! they buy them from other criminals or cut out the middle man and STEAL them them selves!!! :rolleyes:
You sure about that? The ATF found that 30% of guns used in a crime were acquired at a gun show. Even the NRA supports closing that legal loophole! The City of New York conducted an investigation in 3 different states and found that 74% of even licensed dealers were willing to sell guns to their undercover agents even after they told the seller they were legally prohibited from purchasing them.
 
Im not gonna argue those stats, and they may very well be correct, its really irrelevant to the tragedy of yesterday. the boy took the guns from his mother! NO background check woulda stopped it! NO gun bans on “ASSAULT RIFLES” woulda stopped it!

so PLEASE, tell me why any gun regulation would unarm anyone other than law abiding citizens?? it’s a very simple question that NO gun control advocate can answer!!
He cannot and will not directly answer your question…

because he has no answer.

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And you’re missing the point that unlicensed sellers are not required to ask or perform background checks. Can you provide any good reason why anyone should be allowed to purchase a weapon at a gun show without a background check or waiting period? That is the legal state of things.

It is a very simple question that anyone can answer starting with the elimination of the absurd idea that anyone who walks into a gun show is a law abiding citizen. I think the lives of 18 children are worth the minor inconvenience to people who haven’t demonstrated an ability or intent to use guns lawfully.
u are ASSUMING that gun shows have murders there!! Ive been to several gun shows over the years. havnt ever heard of anyone from said gun show bein there! but its still irrelevant, cause it’s been said he couldnt buy a gun.

how many children die every year from Drunk Drivers? is our children NOT worth bannin alcohol? how many children are affected by obesity? shouldnt we ban spoons and fork cause our children are worth a lil inconvenience to our eatin habits?
 
Nice diversions here… so let’s get back to the subject.

What additional gun controls that you liberal are want, would have stopped the CT shooting?

Be specific and tell us how they would have prevented the killings.

Fire away…

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u are ASSUMING that gun shows have murders there!! Ive been to several gun shows over the years. havnt ever heard of anyone from said gun show bein there! but its still irrelevant, cause it’s been said he couldnt buy a gun.
And, as the ATF and City of New York pointed out, legally prohibited persons can and have bought guns at gun shows because there is no legal requirement that background checks are performed there.
how many children die every year from Drunk Drivers? is our children NOT worth bannin alcohol? how many children are affected by obesity? shouldnt we ban spoons and fork cause our children are worth a lil inconvenience to our eatin habits?
I’m not talking about banning guns and, as I’ve already pointed out, people don’t go buy alcohol or cars for the purpose of mass murder.
 
And, as the ATF and City of New York pointed out, legally prohibited persons can and have bought guns at gun shows.

I’m not talking about banning guns and, as I’ve already pointed out, people don’t go buy alcohol or cars for the purpose of mass murder.
The ATF didn’t say that

What additional gun controls that you want, would have stopped the CT shooting?

Be specific and tell us how they would have prevented the killings.

What’s your hold up? Tell us…

…still waiting
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Wrong. The data is from the ATF as the source notes.

You sure about that? The ATF found that 30% of guns used in a crime were acquired at a gun show. Even the NRA supports closing that legal loophole! The City of New York conducted an investigation in 3 different states and found that 74% of even licensed dealers were willing to sell guns to their undercover agents even after they told the seller they were legally prohibited from purchasing them.
fast and furious was a poor excuse by our current administration that forced gun dealers to sell weapons to criminals n mexico as well as the ATF !! so whatever they wanna say about illegal gun sales means nothing to me. and Im sure means even less to the slain border control agent!

but here again, all that is IRRELEVANT to yesterdays tragedy!! the guy did NOT buy any of those guns.
 
And, as the ATF and City of New York pointed out, legally prohibited persons can and have bought guns at gun shows because there is no legal requirement that background checks are performed there.

I’m not talking about banning guns and, as I’ve already pointed out, people don’t go buy alcohol or cars for the purpose of mass murder.
and all the guns I have purchased, I have NEVER bought one to murder anyone with!!

yer graspin straws here!! :rolleyes:
 
so whatever they wanna say about illegal gun sales means nothing to me.
Which seems to be the prevailing attitude among gun owners and why children will continue to be slaughtered. Some people don’t care that a small inconvenience can save lives.
and all the guns I have purchased, I have NEVER bought one to murder anyone with!!
And thats great but I don’t believe in selling guns to people without mandatory background checks and psychological evaluations no matter who is selling them.
 
Here. And the important point to made here is this; 40% are from unlicensed sellers, for example, over the internet. They’re not legally required to perform background checks so it should be no surprise that such a large portion of gun sales are performed by unlicensed sellers. Any felon could go to ebay right now and buy a gun or, as the source points out, even a local gun show.
Adam Lanza was denied a gun when he requested a gun and took his mother’s guns instead which were legally registered to her. What gun control law would of stopped Adam Lanza from taking those guns?

What gun control law could stop somebody from take someone elses guns?
 
Which seems to be the prevailing attitude among gun owners and why children will continue to be slaughtered. Some people don’t care that a small inconvenience can save lives.

And thats great but I don’t believe in selling guns to people without mandatory background checks and psychological evaluations no matter who is selling them.
What additional gun controls that you want, would have stopped the CT shooting?

Be specific and tell us how they would have prevented the killings.

What’s your hold up… you’ve had 30 minutes to think on this.

…still waiting
 
Adam Lanza was denied a gun when he requested a gun and took his mother’s guns instead which were legally registered to her. What gun control law would of stopped Adam Lanza from taking those guns?
That is a question for parents to ask. Why have a gun at all with a mentally unstable child in the house?
 
Chicago is number 1 for gang and gun violence is number 1 state in terms of gun control
 
Which seems to be the prevailing attitude among gun owners and why children will continue to be slaughtered. Some people don’t care that a small inconvenience can save lives.

And thats great but I don’t believe in selling guns to people without mandatory background checks and psychological evaluations no matter who is selling them.
yer logic about “gun owners” and our children can apply to anything. but u keep dodging cause Im assumin u like alcohol, eatin, baseball games.

and if yer against sellin firearms to ANYONE without performin a back ground check, then DON’T!!!

But none of yer arguments against us big bad gun owners still doesn’t do anything to protect those kids from yesterday.

Bottom line is, is u wanna see gun control and have probably wanted to see it for sometime. and thats fine, just say it and QUIT tryin to use this massacre as a way to prove yer agenda. and as a father of 4, it’s kinda offensive how u assume how Im willin to protect my children 😉
 
That is a question for parents to ask. Why have a gun at all with a mentally unstable child in the house?
I am sure whether Adam Lanza was living with her, but if he was living with her, that should be the choice for the mother to take. What about having better mental services in all states and not having services taken away by ‘civil liberties’ groups which has happened in CO. Adam Lanza was not legally a child, he was 20 years old. Mentally unstable should not be all tarnished with a brush because of Adam Lanza, many are sensitive and would never commit a crime
 
That is a question for parents to ask. Why have a gun at all with a mentally unstable child in the house?
You want gun control laws, surely you should have an answer. I think we both know the truth that no gun control law could of stopped Adam Lanza from getting a gun, he could of stole guns from a neighbour even if his mother did not have guns

I am not sure whether Adam Lanza was living with his mother. What about having better mental services in all states and not having services taken away by ‘civil liberties’ groups which has happened in CO. Adam Lanza was not legally a child, he was 20 years old. Mentally unstable persons should not be all tarnished with a brush because of Adam Lanza, many are sensitive and would never commit a crime
 
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