Dave's Allegation That Catholics Are Idolators

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Hmmmm. When someone starts a thread (usually attacking a Caholic belief), then refuses to come back and respond, does that mean he’s a (gasp) troll? :eek:

Peace,
Linda
 
since my currency is different I will bet saying a decade of the rosary to be recited in this thread, that Dave will appear on this thread tomorrow. He has been lurking so he is aware of our comments.
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Hmmm…interesting.
He’s been lurking - and yet has failed to address important challenges on 2 threads.
What is he waiting for?

I say - a chaplet of Divine Mercy he DOESN’T show up! :cool:
 
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Lorarose:
Hmmm…interesting.
He’s been lurking - and yet has failed to address important challenges on 2 threads.
What is he waiting for?

I say - a chaplet of Divine Mercy he DOESN’T show up! :cool:
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He is Church of Christ( used to be one).As we speak Dave is taking scriptures out of context to use for attack:eek: Frantically he will go through any verse that he can make appear to condemn the Catholic Church:nope: History and other factors like Heretics will not count,because they are mentioned by name in the Bible.😦 He bides his time,and I bide mine;) :whistle:And we do not worship Statues:p
 
Don’t forget The Church itself, or the Eucharist. Catholics are in danger of falling into the trap of worshiping those as gods.
 
When Ruth refers to her priest she is referring to Jesus. Of course she is what is deceptive is she says her priest says. We all know it is what her interpretation of what Holy Scripture says, not what Jesus Said. Not that she understands that.

God Bless,

Maria
 
Church Militant,
Could you tell us where OUDave made that comment? Just tell us what topic and thread so we can get the context of that statement.
 
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Angainor:
Don’t forget The Church itself, or the Eucharist. Catholics are in danger of falling into the trap of worshiping those as gods.
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Easy there Angainor…
Those are slightly different issues…
Of course we don’t worship the Church, but the Real Presence in the Eucharist is an issue that certainly does need and deserve it’s own thread. I’ve been thinking of starting one…Why dontcha beat me to the punch, okay?

Exporter- the thread it’s from is 'Mary as an intercessor"
Pax vobiscum, 👍
 
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Church Militant,
Could you tell us where OUDave made that comment? Just tell us what topic and thread so we can get the context of that statement.
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the thread it’s from is 'Mary as an intercerssor" :coffee:
 
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Angainor:
Don’t forget The Church itself, or the Eucharist. Catholics are in danger of falling into the trap of worshiping those as gods.
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Since Catholics believe that the consecrated eucharist IS Jesus Christ, it is proper to worship it at the appointed time. There is nothing idolatrous about worshipping the sacred Body and Blood of our Lord, because it IS our Lord.
 
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OhioBob:
I’ve seen Protestants kneeling next to their beds. They must worship mattresses!

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OhioBob I was feeling a little down today but when I read your quote I almost spit on the compter screen I was laughing so hard. I still giggle everytime I think of it. Thanks for the good laugh and cheering me up today. :rotfl:
I’m soooo tired of people saying we worship statues and Mary I could scream. Its amazing how they think they know what is in my heart.
 
Church Militant:
Easy there Angainor…
Those are slightly different issues…
Of course we don’t worship the Church, but the Real Presence in the Eucharist is an issue that certainly does need and deserve it’s own thread. I’ve been thinking of starting one…Why dontcha beat me to the punch, okay?

Exporter- the thread it’s from is 'Mary as an intercessor"
Pax vobiscum, 👍
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Hey Mike,

Angainor was having a lend of us. There is still only two who have voted yes and we know who they are.

MaggieOH
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
Since Catholics believe that the consecrated eucharist IS Jesus Christ, it is proper to worship it at the appointed time. There is nothing idolatrous about worshipping the sacred Body and Blood of our Lord, because it IS our Lord.
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Scott,

Angainor is not against us. If you ask him I bet you will find he was referring to the allegations to be found in a Jack Chick tract.

MaggieOH
 
When Ruth refers to her priest she is referring to Jesus. Of course she is what is deceptive is she says her priest says. We all know it is what her interpretation of what Holy Scripture says, not what Jesus Said. Not that she understands that.
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Ruth101 has voted to support Dave in this poll.
She has attempted to pass herself off as a catholic in other threads. 😦
At least Dave is open and honest about himself and his position.

Ruth! - being deceptive is never a good christian example!!
 
Ruth101 said:
:nope: I am not ranting, nor am I hijacking anything, I am pointing out the fact that the Bible says we are to ask our true Advocate Who is Jesus Christ. That is what my priest tells us. Who am I to argue, especially if it is in the Bible? Didn’t mean to ruffle angel hairs.

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Ruth, you say “my priest” yet you are talking about a text in a Bible. Did you know that it is idolatry to refer to the Bible as “my priest”?

Also, that statement indicates that you are not telling the truth. Jesus is in Heaven. He is not sitting there in your Bible waiting for you to open it so that he can pop out and talk to you. Let us face reality here. You attend a Fundamentalist Baptist Church. You have a pastor, which is another variation of priest. It is your pastor who preaches to you on a Sunday. When you open your Bible, you need to read someone else’s commentary so that you can understand what is written. You read commentaries written by such people as John McArthur or Norman Geisler. Yet you will come here and claim that you only listen to Jesus and that is what "your mind… pastor… commentator… interpreter… priest " said.

As for ruffled angel’s hair well, you cannot knock the halo off the head with senseless comments smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/17/17_1_12v.gif

MaggieOH
 
I pray for intercession, not for doing something God only can do. If I prayed to a Saint for a miracle, it would always be assuming he would be acting through God’s power, as an intercessor, not as a demigod.

I don’t pray to statues. I will kneel in front of one, but I will be praying to God or the Saint (for intercession).

Lastly, if a Catholic says, “Saint X, do/make/create/help/restore/facilitate/remove/whatever”, he understands the Saint can’t do anything of his own power and that the Saint is not the source of any power he might wield by God’s grace and order.
 
Well, here is number 3:( Zippy so you too have decided to take part in the slander and falsehoods:nope: I saw you on the other thread as well:eek: Shame on you for casting false judgements:tsktsk: Judge not lest ye be judged:eek:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Well, here is number 3:( Zippy so you too have decided to take part in the slander and falsehoods:nope: I saw you on the other thread as well:eek: Shame on you for casting false judgements:tsktsk: Judge not lest ye be judged:eek:
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Lisa you beat me to the punch. I was about to expose Zippy for his judgmental attitude.

MaggieOH
 
We ask our friends on earth to pray for our needs. Even bible-thumpers think this is fine. Catholics also believe that we can ask our friends in heaven to pray for our needs. It is not worshipping any one in either context. It is not asking people in addition to or as a bypass to Jesus and God, and the Holy Spirit. It is asking people to also ask Jesus and God And the Holy Spirit.

I don’t understand how peopel are so misguided on the issue. The Book of Revelations stalks about souls in the altar crying to God for vegeance. If they can ask God for favors for themselves, surely they can ask of God for our sake too, and they are clsoer, and since they are in heaven already they are more righteous than we are. The prayers of the righteous have greater weight. Prayers in number have greater force.

Catholics do not believe that once people die they are forgotten and powerless and cut off from the body of Christ. They believe that when people die, if they are in heaven then they still active members of Christ’s body, and that they can still pray for us. Worship does not enter the equation. People beg on their knees for any numebr of reasons; the action is logically not thought of as worshipping, but a way of making one self humble while appeling for help.
 
But they will NOT answer the Biblical evidence in post # 4.
Is that because they have no way to counter the simple truths of the Word of God (that we Catholics supposedly don’t read and don’t believe…but that also is another thread!) and CANNOT STAND to admit that they might have been taught wrong by their preachers and that the Catholic Church really is within the bounds of orthodoxy in its practices. Prejudice and bigotry are great fun and highly profitable I guess.
Pax vobiscum,
 
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