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seekerz said:
The Mexico City Policy only has meaning if it decreased rather than increased abortion. If it made no difference, it was pointless. I’m not okay with policies that are pointless or counterproductive, so where is the evidence that it actually achieved produced meaningful change?
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So…you take American tax dollars, give it to foreign nations to make abortions more available, and id DECREASES the amount of abortions.

WHat sort of bizarro land math does that work in? :confused:
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
So…you take American tax dollars, give it to foreign nations to make abortions more available, and id DECREASES the amount of abortions.

WHat sort of bizarro land math does that work in? :confused:
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Exactly. Bottom line: being in favor of American tax dollars funding abortion is more than pro-choice; it is pro-abortion. The poster is, therefore, pro-abortion.
 
seekerz said:
Which evil policies? The ones that enables the sick to access medical care they could not otherwise afford or the ones that have existed since he was a child with no more than token opposition? And let’s not even go near the Mexico City Policy unless you can give me figures on abortions averted or caused. In the real world, the only similarity between cosmetics and politics are that they end in -tics.
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I was thinking of the policies that fight tooth and nail to keep abortion on demand the law of the land. The policies to re-define marriage. Policies to fund stem cell research on aborted fetuses. Those kinds of policies. would you say they are evil?

Ishii
 
ishii said:
I was thinking of the policies that fight tooth and nail to keep abortion on demand the law of the land. The policies to re-define marriage. Policies to fund stem cell research on aborted fetuses. Those kinds of policies. would you say they are evil?

Ishii
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Not just stem cell research on aborted fetuses, but also on frozen embryos from fertility clinics. It also involves the first stage of cloning, called Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic-cell_nuclear_transfer
 
To be clear this is not official campaign merchandise,” the Weekly Standard notes, “but it pretty clearly speaks to the fact the Obama cult of personality is going strong.”
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Note…not official. Democrats believe that people have the freedom to express themselves. If they wish to engage in a personality cult or hero worship, they are free to do so, and some will.

This not unknown in any of the political movements.

John
 
oldcelt said:
Note…not official. Democrats believe that people have the freedom to express themselves. If they wish to engage in a personality cult or hero worship, they are free to do so, and some will.

This not unknown in any of the political movements.

John
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Well, we all know that no Republican has ever engaged in hero worship of any of their candidates, and no Republican has ever placed their party in the spot that God and the Church belong in.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Well, we all know that no Republican has ever engaged in hero worship of any of their candidates, and no Republican has ever placed their party in the spot that God and the Church belong in.
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Name republican candidate that has been idolised like Obama has?
 
Republicans launch DNC counteroffensive in Charlotte
Republicans launched their counter-programming effort in Charlotte on Monday with a simple message: Americans are not better off today than they were four years ago.
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“The thrill and pixie dust of the Barack Obama presidency is gone,” Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus told reporters. “There is no hope … After four years of Barack Obama we are not better off.”
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Priebus was speaking inside a sleek “war room” that GOP officials opened in the basement of the NASCAR Plaza office tower in downtown Charlotte, just steps from the newly-erected security perimeter surrounding Democratic National Convention festivities.
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“Barack Obama, four years ago, campaigned on an economy that was difficult, but he campaigned on that economy, campaigned that he would fix that economy,” Priebus said. “Either he didn’t understand the gravity of what he was doing or what he was walking into, or he completely failed.”
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Priebus also revised his prediction from before the Republican National Convention in Tampa that Mitt Romney would get a “real” and “visible” bounce in the polls after his convention speech.
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While spotty, national polling since the GOP convention has no discernable bump for Romney.
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Priebus said Republicans are feeling “a lot of momentum” out of Tampa but acknowledged that there has only been “a small bump” since Tampa.
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“We have nowhere else to go but up,” he said.
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politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/03/republicans-launch-dnc-counteroffensive-in-charlotte
 
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From the Catholic Answers’ acclaimed “Voter’s Guide for Serious Catholics”

“The Five Non-Negotiables”**

Video: youtube.com/watch?v=N4HMaf7GEwU&feature=player_embedded

Five items that no Catholic can vote in favor of:

1. Abortion: The Church teaches that, regarding a law permitting abortions, it is “never licit to obey it, or to take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or to vote for it” (EV 73). Abortion is the intentional and direct killing of an innocent human being, and therefore it is a form of homicide. The unborn child is always an innocent party, and no law may permit the taking of his life. Even when a child is conceived through rape or incest, the fault is not the child’s, who should not suffer death for others’ sins. Another sub-set issue within this subject area that is non-negotiable pertains to Human Reproductive Technologies, which includes the Church’s position against Contraception, In-Vitro Fertilization and Sterilization.

2. Euthanasia: Often disguised by the name "mercy killing;’ euthanasia is also a form of homicide. No person has a right to take his own life, and no one has the right to take the life of any innocent person. In euthanasia, the ill or elderly are killed, by action or omission, out of a misplaced sense of compassion, but true compassion cannot include intentionally doing something intrinsically evil to another person (cf. EV 73).

3. Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Human embryos are human beings. “Respect for the dignity of the human being excludes all experimental manipulation or exploitation of the human embryo” (CRF 4b). Recent scientific advances show that medical treatments that researchers hope to develop from experimentation on embryonic stem cells can often be developed by using adult stem cells instead. Adult stem cells can be obtained without doing harm to the adults from whom they come. Thus there is no valid medical argument in favor of using embryonic stem cells. And even if there were benefits to be had from such experiments, they would not justify destroying innocent embryonic humans.

4. Human Cloning: “Attempts … for obtaining a human being without any connection with sexuality through ‘twin fission,’ cloning, or parthenogenesis are to be considered contrary to the moral law, since they are in opposition to the dignity both of human procreation and of the conjugal union” (RHL 1:6). Human cloning also involves abortion because the “rejected” or “unsuccessful” embryonic clones are destroyed, yet each clone is a human being.

5. Homosexual “Marriage”: True marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Legal recognition of any other union as “marriage” undermines true marriage, and legal recognition of homosexual unions actually does homosexual persons a disfavor by encouraging them to persist in what is an objectively immoral arrangement. “When legislation in favor of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time ina legislative assembly, the Catholic lawmaker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral” (UHP 10).
 
Reagan was not deified with iconography and Bible quotes towards him as if he was God like Obama has had and Reagan does not have a Gospel of Reagan according to that Obama has
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You’d better tell that to the What Would Reagen Do people.
Seems to me that question was, originally, what would Jesus do?

John
 
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