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rlg94086 said:
So, you are in favor of reversing the payroll tax cut that you just posted about, correct?
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Is there some compelling reason why it should NOT be reversed? Like Bush’s silly refund, it has done nothing for the economy. All it has done is further impoverish SS.
 
Democrats reframe abortion debate
Democrats think they’ve figured out how to win the abortion debate: Don’t make it about abortion.
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Starting Tuesday, the Democratic convention here will feature speeches from Planned Parenthood Action Fund President Cecile Richards, NARAL President Nancy Keenan and Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke, who became a flashpoint in the debate over requiring Catholic institutions to pay for birth control.
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But don’t expect them to focus on abortion — or even necessarily use the word. Instead, they’ll defend President Barack Obama’s record on reproductive health and reproductive rights. And, as they have before, they’ll accuse GOP nominee Mitt Romney and his party of waging a “war on women.”
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Obama’s significant lead among women has given him a slight edge in most national and swing-state polls. Republicans attempted to beat back Democratic attacks last week in Tampa — both Ann and Mitt Romney made specific appeals to women — but Democrats believe they’ve got the clear advantage going into November.
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politico.com/news/stories/0912/80599.html#ixzz25WKzv9ar

They will not use the word abortion because it is not popular
 
Ridgerunner said:
Is there some compelling reason why it should NOT be reversed? Like Bush’s silly refund, it has done nothing for the economy. All it has done is further impoverish SS.
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Exactly. That is why Seeker1961 changed the subject away from the cherished “payroll tax cut.” It’s a feel-good measure to gain votes from people who are more concerned about what others pay than good fiscal policy.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I think it’s time for real information from reputable sources. I’m not buying this.
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Believe whatever you wish.

If you’re voting Romney/Ryan on abortion and gay marriage I understand that. I don’t personally agree that they will change anything in those areas but I understand those who do.

I don’t understand and never will understand people who will continue to vote again and again for people who promise that wealth will simply “trickle down” from the top when easily available evidence shows quite plainly that it does not.
 
rlg94086 said:
Exactly. That is why Seeker1961 changed the subject away from the cherished “payroll tax cut.” It’s a feel-good measure to gain votes from people who are more concerned about what others pay than good fiscal policy.
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As I said above, believe whatever you wish. You will anyway.
 
Seeker1961 said:
The Republicans are doing something they’ve done before, they’re banking on the social issues pushing them over the top and it might work. It’s worked before, but the demographics of the country aren’t the same as they were in the years when gay marriage wasn’t legal anywhere and legal abortion was something that voters hadn’t lived with their entire lives.
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rlg94086 said:
Actually, you have that backwards. The Republican convention’s primary focus was on jobs and improving the economy. I expect, based on the line up, the Democrats are going to focus on social issues, especially “women’s” issues.
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_Abyssinia said:
DNC website caught lying about party’s civil rights record

spectator.org/archives/2012/09/04/the-dncs-bold-lies/print
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Seeker1961 said:
As I said above, believe whatever you wish. You will anyway.
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In other words, you have no answer about the “payroll tax cut” and its effect on Social Security. As long as you get your cut, and we tax someone else, you are okay with that.

And, they say Republicans are the party of greed…
 
Seeker1961 said:
If you’re voting Romney/Ryan on abortion and gay marriage I understand that. I don’t personally agree that they will change anything in those areas but I understand those who do.

I don’t understand and never will understand people who will continue to vote again and again for people who promise that wealth will simply “trickle down” from the top when easily available evidence shows quite plainly that it does not.
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I don’t belive in “trickle down.” That’s just a class warfare misrepresentation of sound fiscal policy. I don’t envy “the top.” I want solutions that will result in a stronger economy, balanced budget, and eventually paying down our debt so our country doesn’t collapse. Personally, I like the Fair Tax, but I know it has no hope of being implemented. Some sort of simpler tax code would be good.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Believe whatever you wish.

If you’re voting Romney/Ryan on abortion and gay marriage I understand that. I don’t personally agree that they will change anything in those areas but I understand those who do.

I don’t understand and never will understand people who will continue to vote again and again for people who promise that wealth will simply “trickle down” from the top when easily available evidence shows quite plainly that it does not.
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You’re right in believing I would vote against Obama on abortion alone. I would on promotion of homosexual “marriage” alone. I would vote against Obama on the basis of his forcing Catholic institutions to pay fines if they don’t pay for contraceptives and abortifacients alone. I would vote against Obama for its position in the Hosanna Tabor case alone.

Maybe the Repubs will fix those things and maybe Obama has made it so they can’t. But voting against evil is the right thing to do anytime.

I realize “trickle down” is something Democrats like to say. But if they were so against aiding the rich, why did they pay wealthy people under “Cash for Clunkers” and destroy the cars upon which the poor depend?

If they were so much for “the poor” why have they done nothing but add more people to the medicaid roles upon which the poorest depend?

The “rich” aren’t the only ones who pay high gasoline prices while obama thwarts energy production. The “rich” can more easily pay utility costs when obama makes them 'skyrocket" as he promised.

And “the rich” don’t have to worry about the unemployment Obama exacerbates with policies that discourage small businesses from hiring. The poor and the middle class are the ones who get the brunt of that.

“Trickle down, indeed.” Obama stands for “trickle down poverty” to those who can least stand it.
 
Ridgerunner said:
You’re right in believing I would vote against Obama on abortion alone. I would on promotion of homosexual “marriage” alone. I would vote against Obama on the basis of his forcing Catholic institutions to pay fines if they don’t pay for contraceptives and abortifacients alone. I would vote against Obama for its position in the Hosanna Tabor case alone.

Maybe the Repubs will fix those things and maybe Obama has made it so they can’t. But voting against evil is the right thing to do anytime.

I realize “trickle down” is something Democrats like to say. But if they were so against aiding the rich, why did they pay wealthy people under “Cash for Clunkers” and destroy the cars upon which the poor depend?

If they were so much for “the poor” why have they done nothing but add more people to the medicaid roles upon which the poorest depend?

The “rich” aren’t the only ones who pay high gasoline prices while obama thwarts energy production. The “rich” can more easily pay utility costs when obama makes them 'skyrocket" as he promised.

And “the rich” don’t have to worry about the unemployment Obama exacerbates with policies that discourage small businesses from hiring. The poor and the middle class are the ones who get the brunt of that.

“Trickle down, indeed.” Obama stands for “trickle down poverty” to those who can least stand it.
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Nice. 👍
 
qui_est_ce said:
Great site, very funny.😃
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LOVED IT TOO…the name is great “Rome Depot!” Actually was thinking a fire hose might be enough to distrbute the Holy Water. The Dems have REALLY come out on the plank of abortion paid for by others on demand any time for any reason, free contraception, and homoesexual marriage. The party of Death walks the plank…

Lisa
 
Ridgerunner said:
You’re right in believing I would vote against Obama on abortion alone. I would on promotion of homosexual “marriage” alone. I would vote against Obama on the basis of his forcing Catholic institutions to pay fines if they don’t pay for contraceptives and abortifacients alone. I would vote against Obama for its position in the Hosanna Tabor case alone.

Maybe the Repubs will fix those things and maybe Obama has made it so they can’t. But voting against evil is the right thing to do anytime.

I realize “trickle down” is something Democrats like to say. But if they were so against aiding the rich, why did they pay wealthy people under “Cash for Clunkers” and destroy the cars upon which the poor depend?

If they were so much for “the poor” why have they done nothing but add more people to the medicaid roles upon which the poorest depend?

The “rich” aren’t the only ones who pay high gasoline prices while obama thwarts energy production. The “rich” can more easily pay utility costs when obama makes them 'skyrocket" as he promised.

And “the rich” don’t have to worry about the unemployment Obama exacerbates with policies that discourage small businesses from hiring. The poor and the middle class are the ones who get the brunt of that.

“Trickle down, indeed.” Obama stands for “trickle down poverty” to those who can least stand it.
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Hoo…I’m dizzy from reading all that spin. :whacky:

Naturally,I don’t believe a word of it, just like you would never believe a word of what I think. You would think it was just as much spin.

Well. it’ll all be over in a couple of months and we can move on with our lives.
 
Ridgerunner said:
You’re right in believing I would vote against Obama on abortion alone. I would on promotion of homosexual “marriage” alone. I would vote against Obama on the basis of his forcing Catholic institutions to pay fines if they don’t pay for contraceptives and abortifacients alone. I would vote against Obama for its position in the Hosanna Tabor case alone.

Maybe the Repubs will fix those things and maybe Obama has made it so they can’t. But voting against evil is the right thing to do anytime.

I realize “trickle down” is something Democrats like to say. But if they were so against aiding the rich, why did they pay wealthy people under “Cash for Clunkers” and destroy the cars upon which the poor depend?

If they were so much for “the poor” why have they done nothing but add more people to the medicaid roles upon which the poorest depend?

The “rich” aren’t the only ones who pay high gasoline prices while obama thwarts energy production. The “rich” can more easily pay utility costs when obama makes them 'skyrocket" as he promised.

And “the rich” don’t have to worry about the unemployment Obama exacerbates with policies that discourage small businesses from hiring. The poor and the middle class are the ones who get the brunt of that.

“Trickle down, indeed.” Obama stands for “trickle down poverty” to those who can least stand it.
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Another Welfare for the Rich scheme is the credits for electric cars. Who’s buying those Volts? Not poor or middle class families. I understand the average income of the electric car buyer is six figures, far above the median rate. Now why would Obama want to benefit rich people so blatantly?

Oh another thing the Dems propose to “help” the poor is increase the minimum wage despite all evidence that this HURTS those it is supposed to help. It reduces employment at the starter and unskilled labor levels.

Doesn’t this quote make you think “Democrat talking points?”

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill

Lisa
 
Seeker1961 said:
Hoo…I’m dizzy from reading all that spin. :whacky:

Naturally,I don’t believe a word of it, just like you would never believe a word of what I think. You would think it was just as much spin.

Well. it’ll all be over in a couple of months and we can move on with our lives.
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You were dizzy way before anyone started posting. That’s why you never come up with substantive responses. 😛
 
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