Democratic convention

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DaddyGirl said:
Just cause it was taken out of that paragraph, doesn’t mean it wasn’t added elsewhere where it would fit and flow better? Could just be a re-arranging/writing thing.
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Go find it. Good luck.
 
DaddyGirl said:
Just cause it was taken out of that paragraph, doesn’t mean it wasn’t added elsewhere where it would fit and flow better?

Could just be a re-arranging/writing thing.
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Nope. It has been removed. Sadly.
 
oldcelt said:
C.E. is a modern invention. Our founders were very eloquent men and quite fearless. Had they intended to include Jesus, or any other deity in the meat of either document, they would have done so.

The documents are intentionally devoid of specific references because our founders were a diverse group…some believed, some didn’t, some were_____insert denomination, some were not. They knew that the only way to succeed in their dangerous venture was to be inclusive of all beliefs.

Just my read on things.

John
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Constitution was written in 1787. In English CE has been used since 1708. Framers could of used CE and they did not, they reference dating using Jesus Christ’s birth
 
And the platform endorses all abortion, including partial birth. Just pathetic.:mad:😦
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
Yes, but what does this tell us about the two parties’ respective bases?
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Taken in combination with the endorsement of abortion on demand and of homosexual “marriage”, it tells you just about all you could ever want to know about the party leaders, at least.
 
DaddyGirl said:
It’s all there in that second part, lower down…the part about faith and religion. That’s a way of referencing God.
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It’s a way of avoiding reference to God by referencing everything under the sun from Christianity to Satanism. That’s certainly consistent with the post-Christian view of the world but it is a departure from previous Democrat platforms.

By contrast, you will not find such an equitable treatment of those who support and oppose Obamacare, homosexual marriage, or abortion or any other mater of Democrat priority.

Sometimes the truth is right there in front of you.
 
epan said:
At least, they are honest about their values. The Republicans were too embarrassed for the policies of President Bush even to allow him through the door. Has that ever happened before, that a party is so shamed by the performance of their latest president, that he is absent from the convention? What does this say about electing someone who promises to revive his failed policies? Do they think that Republican voters are too stupid to remember what was happening five years ago?
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I cannot fathom why so many Dems claim that the Romney/Ryan ticket “revives old failed policies…” On what do you base this? Which policies and how did they fail? The financial meltdown was NOT a result of Bush’s policies if that’s what you are going to claim. Further Bush was thrust into being a wartime president, something he had not planned. Neither Romney or Ryan have expressed an interest in “nation building” or lengthy involvement in wars.

Bush’s not a conservative and like the moderate wing of the party, tends to like “big government” solutions: No Child Left Behind, Medicare Drug Benefit etc. Where in the Romney Ryan plank is another big government entitlement? In fact Romney has said on day one he would focus on the REPEAL of Obamacare.

Much as Bush was reviled for being “in the pocket of big oil” the reality is that he didn’t PUSH drilling or provide further incentives for oil and gas companies. He didn’t work to overturn the ban on drilling in Anwar…something I HOPE is on Romney’s agenda. What I do know is that he is emphasizing energy independence and developing our resources as well as cooperating with our friends like Canada rather than pandering to the environmentalists.

I think either the Dems don’t mind lying or they live in alternative universe.

Lisa
 
_Abyssinia said:
Planned Parenthood distributes condoms with message: ‘Protect yourself from Romney & Ryan’

Read more: dailycaller.com/2012/09/04/planned-parenthood-distributes-condoms-with-message-protect-yourself-from-romney-ryan/#ixzz25Xd7gQd2

freebeacon.com/meet-the-next-obama

The condom within the packet read “PROPER ATTIRE Required for entry.”

Is there an adult in the group w/ any sense? The sitting president is the leader of this Dem. party/convention. The modern Democrat party has sunk to vulgarity & purpose beyond words.
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CMatt25 said:
But in my view the Democratic Party, while granted not perfectly, better represents the social justice message of Jesus, care for the poor and the sick, and on issues of war and peace. Thank God American combat has ended in Iraq. And it is a party not expecting the poor to sacrifice with severe budget cuts while at the same time raising defense spending and not be willing to ask the rich to give more.

I hope this helps you understand better how any Christian could. God bless us all regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, creed, or non creed. And God bless the United States of America.
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Possibly one could believe this of the modern Dem party if it actually did care for the poor and the sick and the issues of war and peace, and if its expressed desire to “tax the rich more” actually served a purpose and actually taxed the rich.

But it doesn’t do any of those things. During the period when it could have done anything it wanted to do, did it improve the only income the disabled poor have; SSI? No. Did it do anything to help those dependent on Medicaid? No. It added more people to it, crowding those who are already having trouble getting providers to see them. Did it encourage those in a position to hire poor people to do it? No, it discouraged that. Did it hand over the “clunkers” to the various welfare agencies so the poor could drive to work or to the doctor or to school? No. It destroyed them. It promises to make utility bills “skyrocket” on poor people who can least afford it. (They don’t need to be warm, after all.) It expanded the fruitless war in Af/Pak and went to war against a Libya that wasn’t threatening this country or any other and, but for fear of the Russian paper tiger, would be warring against Syria right now.

For the sake of the myth that the Dem party does somehow stand for social justice, it asks us to suspend conscience and accept the degradation of marriage and the killing of the unborn. And we think, somehow, that it’s a good exchange?
 
_Abyssinia said:
Why?
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Because it’s a political speech with a political intent written by political speech writers given by a politician at a political rally.

“We offer our Republican vision of a free people using
their God-given talents, combined with hard work,
self-reliance, ethical conduct, and the pursuit of opportunity,
to achieve great things for themselves and
the greater community.”

“We are the party of the Constitution, the solemn
compact which confirms our God-given individual
rights and assures that all Americans stand equal before
the law.”

“In a free society, the primary
role of government is to protect the God-given, inalienable,
inherent rights of its citizens, including the
rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

That’s not God > politics. That’s politics > God.
 
oldcelt said:
Well, the founding fathers never used it in either the Declaration (yes, they used creator, rather vague), or the Constitution.

John
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The first sentence of the Declaration does have the phrase “…Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God …” (capitalization in the original).
 
DaddyGirl said:
Why pathetic?
The words are strong and inspiring!
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I’m sorry, which ones? The ones where the Democrats are for every type of abortion including infanticide (aka partial birth abortion)? The ones where the Democrats support gay so called marriage?
 
DaddyGirl said:
I don’t see it that way. Just because the word “God” isn’t there, doesn’t mean He’s being avoided…He’s there for all to see. The words in those paragraphs are very passionately talking about God in many different forms. You are bothered only because the word “God” is not there? This way is a more creative, descriptive way of saying “God”, imo.
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Abortion is your way of saying “God”. Got it.
 
CMatt25 said:
Very easy actually. I have a deep faith in God. I am a Christian. Jesus Christ I believe is my Lord and Savior. I love Him with all my heart and strive to follow Him to the best I can according to my understanding of Him. The Democratic President Barack Obama is also a Christian having been baptized in the United Church of Christ, marrying in the UCC, and he and his wife Michelle having had their children baptized as well. I’ve attended many Catholic Masses in my yrs. May begin attending a non Catholic Christian service. The Democratic President and his family have attended St John’s Episcopal near the White House where they have worshiped God and received communion.

But I recognize not everyone in America shares my faith. We are a society of many beliefs as well as non belief . So I have no problem with it. I also believe neither of the 2 US political parties is perfect. But in my view the Democratic Party, while granted not perfectly, better represents the social justice message of Jesus, care for the poor and the sick, and on issues of war and peace. Thank God American combat has ended in Iraq. And it is a party not expecting the poor to sacrifice with severe budget cuts while at the same time raising defense spending and not be willing to ask the rich to give more.

I hope this helps you understand better how any Christian could. God bless us all regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, creed, or non creed. And God bless the United States of America.
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Social justice begins with the right to life.
 
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