Democratic convention

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Republicans Slam Tone of Democratic Speeches

Republicans swiftly denounced the speeches delivered on the second night of the Democratic convention. They said the rhetoric coming from the stage was harsh and polarizing, undercutting any claim that Democrats want to unite the country. Here’s a sample:

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, a spokesman for former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, said: “For all their talk of bringing the country together, the Democratic speakers have told a different story. The message put forth by the speakers throughout the day has been extremely divisive and very centered on attacking Mitt Romney.”

Matt Schlapp, former political director to President George W. Bush, said: “As a Catholic tonight was jarring and really sad. To have the head of Planned Parenthood be given such a place of honor and then to have [Sandra] Fluke give a full-throated speech about how her rights were being taken away was troubling.

“Remember, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter were elected because they were from the South and neither ever campaigned pushing abortion explicitly, nor did they so fully endorse Planned Parenthood and NARAL. Obama has taken his party to a new low.”

Ryan Williams, spokesman for Republican nominee Mitt Romney: “President Clinton drew a stark contrast between himself and President Obama tonight. Bill Clinton worked with Republicans, balanced the budget, and after four years he could say you were better off. Barack Obama hasn’t worked across the aisle – he’s barely worked with other Democrats – and has the worst economic record of any president in modern history. President Clinton’s speech brought the disappointment and failure of President Obama’s time in office clearly into focus.”

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said: “Like so many of Obama’s team, Sandra Fluke’s divisive rhetoric highlights Obama’s failure to change the tone in politics as he promised. American voters aren’t looking for division and scare tactics, they are looking for solutions like those being offered by the Romney-Ryan ticket.”

Saul Anuzis, a former Michigan Republican Party chairman: “They’re trying to make the case that somehow Obama has been cooperative and tried to work in a bipartisan manner. It’s close to being a fantasy and a joke.

“Clinton just said that somehow Americans are better off after four years of Obama when unemployment is up, debt is up and spending is up. These guys are betting on an uninformed and illiterate American public to vote for him.”

blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/06/republicans-slam-tone-of-democratic-speeches

 

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Democrat Kirsten Powers on Sandra Fluke’s speech

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townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/09/05/sandra_fluke_women_in_america_are_silenced

 

[Seeker1961]

PolitiFact ‏@politifact
Clinton said the stimulus program “cut taxes for 95 percent of the American people.” True. ow.ly/dv95n #DNC2012

PolitiFact ‏@politifact
You asked for it: Our quick number-crunch of Clinton’s Dem/Rep “score” on job creation. He’s right.

“Since 1961 … our private economy produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what’s the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 million.”

 

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PolitiFact ‏@politifact
Clinton said the stimulus program “cut taxes for 95 percent of the American people.” True. ow.ly/dv95n #DNC2012

PolitiFact ‏@politifact
You asked for it: Our quick number-crunch of Clinton’s Dem/Rep “score” on job creation. He’s right.

“Since 1961 … our private economy produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what’s the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 million.”

How many times in those years did democrats control presidency, house and senate majority? Only then could democrats take full responsibility for those jobs

Under Clinton republicans controlled congress from 1995 2001, they have to get share of the credit. Too should democrats in the house that under Reagon get some credit

A president is not an island, they sign legislation etc. that the hosue and senate and passes and the house and senate has to have credit and/or responsibility for policies that are passed that impact job growth

Why doesn’t the stat measure public sector and private sector instead of private sector?

Obama had a majority democrat house and senate for 2 years and job growth was dismal. Clinton did not mention that he had that and Obama could of passed job growth policies; immigration reform and he did not

 

[Seeker1961]

How many times in 50 years did democrats in control with a demcorat house and senate majority?

Under Clinton republicans controlled congress from 1995 2001, they have to get share of the credit. Too should democrats in the house that under Reagon get some credit

A president is not an island, they sign legislation etc. that the hosue and senate and passes and the house and senate has to have credit and/or responsibility for policies that are passed that impact job growth

Measuring job creation properly you have to measure public sector and private sector and the the numbers cited only take in to consieration private sector

Obama had a majority democrat house and senate for 2 years and job growth was dismal. Clinton did not mention that he had that al lthat; that he could of passed job growth policies; immigration reform etc and he did not

The numbers don’t lie, and even politifact was kind of shocked if you read the article. It’s true.

Oh…and if a single President is going to get the blame, then they should get the credit too.

 

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The numbers don’t lie, and even politifact was kind of shocked if you read the article. It’s true.

Statisic is accurate but it is not taking in to consideration what I have posted above. Why not respond to points made

 

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Bill Clinton’s Truthiness: “Democrats Created More Jobs”

In 2008, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama crowed that “when Democrats have been in charge of the economy, the economy has grown faster, and it’s also been fairer in the sense that everybody benefits.” The other team’s record, he said, was not as strong: “When the Republicans have been in charge, the economy has grown slower, and there’s been greater inequality.”

Obama’s claim was based on research by Princeton University political scientist Larry Bartels. But according to a recent study by State University of New York at Buffalo political scientist James Campbell, it’s not true. In fact, he says, Democratic and Republican administrations correlate with roughly equal economic outcomes once you adjust for the impact of prior administrations.

Writing in the April 2011 issue of the applied politics journal The Forum

, Campbell says Bartels failed to take into account the fact that Democratic presidents generally have bequeathed economies that were in or near recession to their Republican successors. If anything, Campbell suggests, Democrats’ policies may have contributed to the poor economic conditions that led to their ouster.

“Once the lagged effects of the economy in the six months leading into a year are taken into account,” Campbell concludes, “there are no significant differences in the records of Democratic and Republican presidents with respect to economic growth, unemployment, and income inequality.”

reason.com/blog/2012/09/05/bill-clintons-truthiness-democrats-creat

reason.com/archives/2011/10/18/democrats-vs-republicans

Will take the assement from a political scientist of left leaning PolitiFact and Bill Clinton

 

[oldcelt]

Writing in the April 2011 issue of the applied politics journal The Forum, Campbell says Bartels failed to take into account the fact that Democratic presidents generally have bequeathed economies that were in or near recession to their Republican successors. If anything, Campbell suggests, Democrats’ policies may have contributed to the poor economic conditions that led to their ouster.

Just like President Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression from G. W. Bush. Just like Clinton inherited an economy on its way down from G.H.W. Bush. So this argument doesn’t wash.

John

 

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Just like President Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression from G. W. Bush. Just like Clinton inherited an economy on its way down from G.H.W. Bush. So this argument doesn’t wash.

John

Previous democrat and republican presidents worked with congress, even if it was not with their own party members, that is why Reagon created a strong economy in 2 years after inheriting a recession from Carter. Bill Clinton worked bipartisan

Recession ended, recovery began in 2009 when Obama had a majority democrat house and senate and job growth was anemic then when everything he wanted passed and anemic now

Continued blaming of Bush is a reveal of how bad a president Obama is, he himself blames Bush and many democrats do. Obama has been president for nearly 4 years

 

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Fact checking Bill Clinton’s speech and other democrats at the convention in Charlotte

washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-bill-clintons-speech-and-other-democrats-at-the-convention-in-charlotte/2012/09/06/55b9df68-f7e1-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_blog.html

 

[oldcelt]

Continued blaming of Bush is a reveal of how bad a president Obama is, he himself blames Bush and many democrats do. Obama has been president for nearly 4 years

And how long did the Republicans blame Clinton for a wide variety of issues. Here’s one answer:

With the start of his reelection campaign in the past two weeks, President Bush has revived his pastime of blaming his predecessor, Bill Clinton, for the economic recession.

“Two-and-a-half years ago, we inherited an economy in recession,” he told donors at a Bush-Cheney '04 reception yesterday in Miami. He has raised the same accusation in fundraising appearances since mid-June in Washington, Georgia, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

theleftcoaster.com/archives/000360.php

There are many, many more.

John

 

[scipio337]

Just like President Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression from G. W. Bush. Just like Clinton inherited an economy on its way down from G.H.W. Bush. So this argument doesn’t wash.

John

Just like President Reagan inherited…

Oh, nevermind.

I have friends at the convention. They paint the picture of the general atmosphere being “dismal”.

Watching what I have of the convention, I notice a certain leaning somewhere between a whine session and full blown, unhinged blame furor.

Clinton’s speech sounded like a cross between a State of the Union address and a stump speech for a 3rd Clinton term.

I guess that’s what you’re forced to work with when you have President Obama’s failing record (“incomplete” on the economy???)

 

[Dawnia]

but did you watch it? the nos were at least as many as the yays

Yup…I think selective hearing was involved in that decision.

 

[oldcelt]

Clinton’s speech sounded like a cross between a State of the Union address and a stump speech for a 3rd Clinton term.

Quoting Fox News? Yes, I watched it on Fox

I don’t know what convention your friends were attending, but the atmosphere looked anything but dismal.

I guess that’s what you’re forced to work with when you have President Obama’s failing record (“incomplete” on the economy???)

I think President Clinton made a pretty strong argument that there is a great deal more to work with. That many here disagree is hardly surprising.

John

 

[scipio337]

Quoting Fox News? Yes, I watched it on Fox.

More paraphrasing of Charles Krauthammer, and I though it an apt observation.

oldcelt:

I don’t know what convention your friends were attending, but the atmosphere looked anything but dismal.

That’s why its called “television”. Two of my friends have attended the last 3 conventions as delegates, who are the ones who told me about the general atmosphere.

I

 

[oldcelt]

More paraphrasing of Charles Krauthammer, and I though it an apt observation.

We’ll have to see how it all washes out. It’s going to be a brutal campaign.

John

 

[Corki]

Sandra Fluke: Ryan “Would Allow Women to Die in Emergency Rooms”

lifenews.com/2012/09/05/sandra-fluke-ryan-would-allow-women-to-die-in-emergency-rooms

She said

Sandra Fluke is not telling the truth. Day 1 panel had 5 men, panel on day 2 had 2 women - Doctor at Calvin College Health Services, Laura Champion and senior vice president for academic affairs at Oklahoma Christian University, Allison Garrett

The Women That Testified to Congress that Planned Parenthood Missed?

patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2012/02/the-women-that-testified-to-congress-that-planned-parenthood-missed.html

Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz Prez: “Proud to Support Obama”

lifenews.com/2012/09/05/planned-parenthood-abortion-biz-prez-proud-to-support-obama

FactCheck would need extra staff if it went over her speech. Of course she’s the same one who claims that her birth control costs $3000 a year and her Catholic univiversity should pay for it. I really do not understand the choice of having this person speak at the convention. All she does is draw criticism and encourage people to make fun of her – well maybe that’s it. She’s drawing fire so that people don’t notice the big flaws in the Democratic ideology.

 

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FactCheck would need extra staff if it went over her speech. Of course she’s the same one who claims that her birth control costs $3000 a year and her Catholic univiversity should pay for it. I really do not understand the choice of having this person speak at the convention. All she does is draw criticism and encourage people to make fun of her – well maybe that’s it. She’s drawing fire so that people don’t notice the big flaws in the Democratic ideology.

I was wondering how the “new celebrity” would be covered. Her speech made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

 

[SamH]

Just like President Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression from G. W. Bush. Just like Clinton inherited an economy on its way down from G.H.W. Bush. So this argument doesn’t wash.

John

Clinton inherited an economy that was emerging from recession - the recession ended in December 1992 and Clinton became president in January 1993, basically all he had to deal with was the recovery.

Obama became president in January 2009, the recession ended in June 2009 before any of his economic “plan” kicked in. Instead of allowing the economy to recover on its own Obama has done everything he could to prevent it from gaining any traction.

 

[SamH]

I was wondering how the “new celebrity” would be covered. Her speech made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I thought how ironic that the democrats accuse the Republicans about a war on women then cheer themselves hoarse for the keynote speaker that is a rapist and life long abuser of women. Maybe they should put some ice on that.