Do Catholics still support Trump

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upant said:
You have to be capable of nuanced political and theological thought to properly understand this topic.

no, you just have to pick and choose what you want from what the bishops say.
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When an individual Bishop contradicts the USCCB, why would you follow the advice of the individual Bishop? That makes no sense. I am not picking and choosing, as you imply. I am disregarding the writing of a Bishop who is not in line with Church teaching.
upant said:
abortion is probably the most thought out topic in christian politics.

why would a sheriff enter into the abortion argument unless he needed pro-choice votes. his mentioning it would cause me concern.
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It doesn’t matter why he/she mentions abortion. My point is that the Bishop’s blanket statement prohibiting voting for a pro choice candidate lacks the nuanced thinking needed to make pronouncements on this topic.
 

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That torture thing is a tough topic. I haven’t looked into details on that. But if a Isis beast is trying to bomb 1k people with kids shouldn’t it be ok to slam against the wall to get info out of him?
I don’t know the limit i would go but in the past i think with Bush the military would slam dudes on the wall. I’m all for that.
 
I do not support Trump and did not vote for him. I did not vote for Clinton either. Both parties need to make certain their candidates have upstanding moral integrity before they are even nominated. I blame the parties for putting up substandard candidates. We were left to choose between two evils. I worry now that Trump is going to get us into nuclear war. I am pro-life, from conception until natural death. I am pro-child, pro-family, pro-diversity, pro-common sense.
 
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ColorMomma said:
. I worry now that Trump is going to get us into nuclear war. I am pro-life, from birth until natural death.
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That’s trumps fault on nuclear war?
Your pro life?
Im pro-life that’s why i voted for Trump. I didn’t vote for Trump because of his looks.
Check out the video i send about 2 days ago.
 
Its hats to be common sense i guess. Bevause was i suppose to let babies die with Hillary or take a sacrifice with Trump and a wall with 3 divorces?
I’ll take trump anytime
 
So im other words you watched on the sidelines while me, priest, nuns, bishops, cardinals and righteous Catholics try to save lives?
Voting 3rd party was a cop out.
Voting 3rd party was saying " “ok little embryos hopefully you get saved by others but i won’t help you because the other guy(Trump) said some locker room talk about 20 years ago in a trailer and that hurts me, so hopefully the Nuns, deacons priest cardinals could save you , good luck little cuties”
Oh please i don’t know if you know what it is to be pro-life.
You get what im saying Color Momma?
Im ragging you a little bit but i want you to see the other side of it too
 
PaulinVA said:
When an individual Bishop contradicts the USCCB, why would you follow the advice of the individual Bishop? That makes no sense. I am not picking and choosing, as you imply. I am disregarding the writing of a Bishop who is not in line with Church teaching.
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many have explained it the way he did in various church offices. even pope john paul 2 said it was the most important issue.
PaulinVA said:
My point is that the Bishop’s blanket statement prohibiting voting for a pro choice candidate lacks the nuanced thinking needed to make pronouncements on this topic.
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the church is in crisis when catholics defend abortion for other issues. everything else pales compared to the million plus kids sacrificed world wide.
 
Do you have statistics for what you seem to be claiming? That all priests, cardinals, bishops, nuns, etc. voted for Trump?

EDIT: Also, “saving lives” is vague. Is being opposed to abortion the only way to save lives?
 
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upant said:
many have explained it the way he did in various church offices. even pope john paul 2 said it was the most important issue.
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Most important issue. The Bishops did not go as far as to say you could never vote for a pro choice candidate. They could have, but did not. So, you are right - it’s the most important issue. I am right - the Bishop in question went too far when he said a Catholic could not vote for a pro choice candidate ever under any circumstances.
upant said:
the church is in crisis when catholics defend abortion for other issues. everything else pales compared to the million plus kids sacrificed world wide.
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Yes, I am anti-abortion. I had a child with terrible birth defects that were discovered during a sonogram. That child lived a natural life of three years.

But, one has to look at the office, the candidates, the situation and apply what the USCCB says in their guidance. A sheriff or school board member has much less impact on abortion policies and “saving the babies” then a state delegate who could vote of legislation regulating abortion clinics.

We need to think when we go to the polls.
 
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Fauken said:
Do you have statistics for what you seem to be claiming? That all priests, cardinals, bishops, nuns, etc. voted for Trump?
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My experience and as i asked my local ordained ministry has been 100%
 
Even everyone from Catholic radio pushed this issue let me name a few. Jimmy Akin, Patrick Madrid Jesse and Terry barber Tim Staples Trent horn cy kellet mother Miriam. Do you need more?
 
I did think about the polls, like Terri barber said “we need to bite our tongues when i vote for trump”
 
MamasBoy33 said:
Even everyone from Catholic radio pushed this issue let me name a few. Jimmy Akin, Patrick Madrid Jesse and Terry barber Tim Staples Trent horn cy kellet mother Miriam. Do you need more?
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Are you saying that each of those people advocated voting for a sociopathic narcissist who admitted to molesting women? Really?

How sad for the Church.
 
Fauken said:
Also, “saving lives” is vague. Is being opposed to abortion the only way to save lives
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No but we had to make a statement look at the statistics 55 million babies killed. When does it Stop

It was a sacrificial vote why can’t you understand that.
Your not in sin for voting 3rd party but it was a bad choice to sit on the sidelines.
Just because you watch Hockey doesn’t make you a hockey player.
You say your pro-life but you don’t want to take the hit.
 
You’re making a generalization based off of a very small sample. A Deacon at my church voted third party, but it would be improper to say all ordained ministers voted third party. I guess he apparently didn’t get the memo to save the babies?
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
Cut $193 million from TRIO and GEAR UP, which provide academic counseling to underprivileged children and veterans.

Cut $3.9 billion from the Pell Grant program, which helps underprivileged undergrads pay for college.

Cut $616 billion from Medicaid and CHIP (Children’s Health Insurance Program), on top of the $800 million cut that the AHCA makes to Medicaid.

Cut $948 million from the HOME Investment Partnerships Program, the biggest federal grant that subsidizes affordable housing.
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I don’t know so much about all these many programs but have you watched Judge Judy lately? So many students on there and other people receiving grants esp for school who have enough to loan money to friends and family to buy cars and take trips… with their college money??? Maybe there is a little bit of gaming the system here??? Maybe we need to take a closer look?
 
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