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JanSobieskiIII
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Well yeah but then one of those places would have had to give up territory for them. I wouldn’t have supported the United States giving up any to give them a homeland.
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Maximilian75
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None of our territory? not giving them some of Alaska or Montana, helping them start, and then backing off?
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CatholicSpirit
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Im with David all day, the Nephilim can take a back seat!
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JanSobieskiIII
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Absolutely not. They have a historic claim to the land they currently occupy. They don’t have that to any land anywhere else. Peace will come when they can unequivocally defeat and subjugate their hostile neighbors. Once the Arabs learn that they can’t win against them they’ll quit fighting (as the Jordanians and Egyptians have). The solution to the Palestinian problem is to quit pretending they have a legitimate claim to anything. Once they learn their only recourse is through peace with their rulers and not constant terror attacks things will improve.
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clarkgamble1
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“…Israel and the area there is at a point where it intersects with the crossroads of numerous civilizations and faiths and you simply cant ‘do away with’ that as for better or worse those civilizations and faiths have influenced all of us posting here.”
And what an influence! That area from before Roman times to the Crusades and beyond has been the site of terrible atrocities committed in the name of “the True religion”, that being the particular religion of each of the warring parties. It’s time to let Israel and the rest of the inhabitants of the region settle their own disagreements, war if necessary, without interference and aid from any other country. Let the fittest survive.
And what an influence! That area from before Roman times to the Crusades and beyond has been the site of terrible atrocities committed in the name of “the True religion”, that being the particular religion of each of the warring parties. It’s time to let Israel and the rest of the inhabitants of the region settle their own disagreements, war if necessary, without interference and aid from any other country. Let the fittest survive.
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JanSobieskiIII
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If I was Israel, I would do my best to get the Sunnis and Shias to go into an all out brawl, and then enter to mop up whoever’s left.
Boom.
Peace in the Middle East.
Boom.
Peace in the Middle East.
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Annie
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They have been offered all that and refused the offer.
My theory? If the Palestinians were to have their own nation, shooting rockets into Israel, etc., would become acts of war for which Israeli could go to war over. Right now, they are protected by being oppressed and occupied.
My theory? If the Palestinians were to have their own nation, shooting rockets into Israel, etc., would become acts of war for which Israeli could go to war over. Right now, they are protected by being oppressed and occupied.
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JanSobieskiIII
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They’re not that conniving.
The Palestinian issue is just a smoke screen. The other Arab countries don’t want to officially recognize a single Jewish state because of their religion, and they don’t want to have to take in all the Pali’s that would leave it if that came to pass. But they also have learned they can’t actually beat Israel because their militaries suck at fighting competent enemies.
The Palestinian issue is just a smoke screen. The other Arab countries don’t want to officially recognize a single Jewish state because of their religion, and they don’t want to have to take in all the Pali’s that would leave it if that came to pass. But they also have learned they can’t actually beat Israel because their militaries suck at fighting competent enemies.
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Maximilian75
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Did the Jews even want the Holy Land? I mean… Beggars can’t be choosers…
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JanSobieskiIII
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Considering they’d been emigrating from Europe to the British mandate of Palestine before WWII to some extent I’d say yes.
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SuperLuigi
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For every rabbi who says Israel shouldn’t exist, I can find a dozen Arabs in Isreal who don’t want Muslim rule.
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josh987654321
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I hesitated with ‘neutral’ but even with the limited knowledge I have, I am definitely in the support Israel camp, I can’t vouch for everything in regards to Israel, but I do know they are miles better then Palestine and their surroundings. If Palestine or any other majority Muslim nation took it, there would be a genocide as well as Christian and Jewish sites destroyed, so it really shows the folly of those who support Palestine.
Not to mention that there are many reports of ‘aid’ to Palestine that has gone to the families of terrorists as a reward for their child’s so called ‘martyrdom’ and other such nonsense of the support Palestine camp.
Thank you for reading.
God Bless
Not to mention that there are many reports of ‘aid’ to Palestine that has gone to the families of terrorists as a reward for their child’s so called ‘martyrdom’ and other such nonsense of the support Palestine camp.
Thank you for reading.
God Bless
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josh987654321
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Then they ought to return Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia wouldn’t you say?You seem to be on the side of legalised theft, those with the biggest guns take what they want.
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josh987654321
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What? sadly? you don’t think Israel should exist or defend themselves?Sadly,
Those statistics say nothing, to judge which side is moral or not by their kill count is folly. Are you suggesting those statistics should be ‘fair’ and thus Palestine should be allowed to kill an equal number or Israeli’s?The disparity has widened dramatically over time.
If you have a case against Israel, then present it, statistics like this are just so wrong on many levels IMO.
Thank you for reading.
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Annie
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It is very interesting how the two different groups operate. One does what it can to protect it’s civilians by building shelters and fighting back against attacks.
The other launches rockets aimed at the civilian population of the other group from civilian populated areas. Thus endangering it’s own civilians as well as using their own civilians to hide behind.
Thus, one side has fewer casualties than the other. But whose fault it that?
The other launches rockets aimed at the civilian population of the other group from civilian populated areas. Thus endangering it’s own civilians as well as using their own civilians to hide behind.
Thus, one side has fewer casualties than the other. But whose fault it that?
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quies
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I always thought that modern Israel exists because of a Kansas City haberdasher and his friend?!
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upant
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what’s your point. many want us to give the country back to the natives.Some Jews and Jewish Rabbis say that Israel has no right to exist and Israel should not exist.
why do you think these laws exist?Arab citizens cite 50 laws which discriminate against Arab citizens of Israel.
won’t work for the most obvious reason. you seem to miss it. or don’t want to say it directly.You simply create one unitary Israeli-Palestinian state which includes the territory of Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza strip and the Golan Heights.
the muslims in europe have no problem proclaiming it
won’t work again for obvious reasonsAll that is needed now is to give citizenship and equal rights in the combined region for everyone living in those territories and to tear down any walls, fences or barriers
within the expanded and combined territory.
survival of the fittest.those with the biggest guns take what they want.
why doesn’t jordan take them. jordan was the original arab palestinian state when the jewish palestinian state was proposed. the original charte for the PA didn’t claim gaza or the west bank.Because the Palestinians are human beings with immortal souls and deserve equal rights and citizenship instead of cruel subjugation and poverty.
some say it was prophecy come true!And, placing the Jews in the middle east on their old homeland, while poetic in a historic sense, was a terrible idea because of Muslim ideas towards Jews…
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AlNg
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In order to discriminate against Arabs living in Israel and prevent them from being equal citizens.why do you think these laws exist?
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upant
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wrong, try againIn order to discriminate against Arabs living in Israel and prevent them from being equal citizens.
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Eric_Hyom
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To be morally just, the kill count on both sides should be zero.Those statistics say nothing, to judge which side is moral or not by their kill count is folly. Are you suggesting those statistics should be ‘fair’ and thus Palestine should be allowed to kill an equal number or Israeli’s?
If you have a case against Israel, then present it, statistics like this are just so wrong on many levels IMO.
Thank you for reading.
Leviticus 19
33 " 'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. 34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
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