Get Ready to Call Your Representative and Senator on Monday 2/26

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It is not a zero sum game, Catholics, priests, Bishops, can care for schools and for the big issues.

Also, every parish I know has many parishioners who are Dreamers. Every Catholic school I know has students who are Dreamers or children of dreamers. They are sitting just down the pew from you every Sunday, you extend them the Sign of Peace in Mass.
 
Catholic_JIll said:
They don’t need the interfaith program (a program that displays all symbols of all religions) in their classroom every week but that’s what the USCCB requires.
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Please provide documentation for this claim.
 
Apparently certain segments, very vocal online segments, undocumented immigration is now a secondary “Original Sin” that is passed from parent to children and grandchildren.
 
I should have been more precise and said this is not about bashing any current nor former president or the spouse of any current nor former president. This is about a call from our Church to stand up and obey the teachings of Christ, to welcome the stranger.
 
Also dehumanizing is referring to people as “anchors” or to families as “chains”.
 
I think I’ll use that day to call my bishop’s office and protest against the involvement of the clergy in politics.
 
Unfortunately the Catholic Church benefits greatly from illegals. Various agencies get billions of dollars thanks to it. I hope that isn’t what is motivating this decades long policy of standing in opposition to US law.
 
I tried with ADA but you know what… I’m going to vote accordingly… bye bye bye gun shop owner as my rep.
 
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U.S. bishops declare national call-in day to urge Congress to save DACA
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I just thought I’d point out an error in this comment: the “U.S. bishops” have not declared a national call-in day. The “U.S. bishops” have called for nothing at all. The call-in is requested by three of the three hundred or so U.S. bishops. My own bishop has surely not suggested I ought to participate.

This might seem a trivial point but it really is necessary to distinguish between the political opinions of a few bishops and the moral pronouncements of all the bishops as a collective. This call is the former, not the latter.
 
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Loud-living-dogma:
Using actual legal description = 'Creative writing"?! Sorry, your ignorance is showing…

Okay, JetteZ, tell us exactly how many people you would let in to immigrate every year into the US. How are you going to differentiate - - you can’t let in all the people that would like to come here!
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I believe the topic at hand is allowing adults who were brought in as children a path to citizenship.

I asked you why you felt they should not be allowed a path and your reasoning was line jumping which is why other immigrants became a topic at all. I allow we don’t have the same feelings on immigration policy and can even understand some of the logic behind limited immigration. I disagree but it’s an understandable position.

I have found denying and deporting adults who were brought into the country a position that defies understanding. I have asked, repeatedly, for some understandable reason and have been given:
  1. Line jumping - there can be more than one line; so, that doesn’t work for me.
  2. The law is the law! - Doesn’t work for me because compassion would dictate that we can change laws that don’t make sense.
  3. Deportation is not a punishment, it’s an “administrative procedure” - the forced abandonment of family, livelihood, and possessions when you have committed no crime may not fit the definition of “retribution for an offence” but it is “rough treatment or handling inflicted on a person.” It is also cruel in the “willfully causing pain or suffering to others” definition.
We have laws that allow cruelty to happen (as is the case with abortion) but to go one step further and encourage the government to act out cruelty is repugnant.

I am opening to hear how you reconcile this behavior but as of yet I haven’t heard a single one that correlates with our Christian values.
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  1. Line jumping. So that doesn’t work for you? Go to your nearest ICE office and talk to the people who have done things the right way, and have been waiting for years. Tell them it’s okay, there can be more than one line. I am sure they will be comforted by that.
  2. The law – just go to Congress and tell them to increase the amount of immigrants that the US can take in every year. No need to re-invent the wheel – just up the numbers. Why don’t the bishops advocate for that?
  3. We’re not talking about some definition out of a dictionary, these are legal terms. You’re the one doing creative writing now.
 
These campaigns run often, that was one example. Google is your friend, you will find many such calls to action.
 
I will be calling. Since my bishop asked for this to happen, how could I not? This is a democracy and all the polls show that Americans overwhelming support this action. My representative needs to be reminded of who he works for, and it darn sure isn’t Trump and the GOP. Not too mention, there has been way too much cafeteria Catholicism as it is.
 
Would you point out where the funds for school lunches, etc are due to undocumented immigrants?
 
The democrats will pick any position that centralizes power to the federal government. As a country we would be much better off if we start going back to a more decentralized government. We need to end Medicare and SS. We need to give back to the state all property within those states. The only property the federal government can own is in DC. Get the federal government out of education and back at a local level.
 
First, Rush Limbaugh said in no uncertain terms that he would be ok with amnisty for every single undocumented foreigner living here as long as they could not vote for 15-20 years.

Second, what is your position in the Republican Catholic Church? (Motto: “Republican First, Catholic Second!”) County Alderman?
 
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