Greatest Threat to the Church

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other: macular degeneration, that is, Catholics who see only what they want to see in the bible and church teaching, twisting the doctrine to fit their conscience, rather than forming their conscience to fit the doctrine. they disregard anything that gets in the way of their prejudices and political correctness and desires. “I’m a good person, Jesus will understand”
 
I believe the greatest threat to the church is the example set by so many Catholics that are only Catholic by name and when it suits their purpose. Going back to John F. Kennedy I remember my mother and many others voting for him because he was Catholic. Look at the examples of people like Kerry, etc. and if we don’t walk the walk then we can’t talk the talk. To many people follow these people and don’t vote with the teachings of the church. They are only catholic as I stated when it suits their purpose.:hmmm:

You’ve got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything.
 
Yes, Secularism and Modernism has invaded the Church.

(So that also includes the current sex abuse scandal). Something, Elizabeth I, Stalin and others were not able to do. Its pure genius. If you make it a crime to be a Catholic priest, and you accuse all Catholic priest of pedophilia, and send them to jail, then you can destroy the Church in one easy stroke.
 
The greatest threat to the Church is CINOs and collegiality. Catholic’s in name only(CINO) pretend to be Catholic, but all the while preach a false Gospel. Bishops and priests do not correct error and at times foster error. The Vatican endorses this concept of collegiality and does not discipline wayward bishops and priests.

Both problems dovetail into each other. They both need to be corrected.
 
The greatest threat is a lack of saints or even a desire to be one.

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
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The greatest threat to the Church is CINOs and collegiality. Catholic’s in name only(CINO) pretend to be Catholic, but all the while preach a false Gospel. Bishops and priests do not correct error and at times foster error. The Vatican endorses this concept of collegiality and does not discipline wayward bishops and priests.
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I’ll agree with you about the CINO’s but I don’t believe the Church intends to endorse the collegiality. Puleeze! The Church gets trashed enough already for how many rules it has and how judgmental it is. The reason so many Catholics leave the faith is because it is SOOOO much easier to be Protestant than to be Catholic. So now the Church is going to get tough on every error?! I think the priests do not constantly “correct error” from the pulpit is because they will alienate most of their Mass-attending parishioners if they were rigid.

Besides, Catholics know what they are doing that is contrary to Church teachings. The Church hierarchy is an effective parent in my mind–every once in a while reminding the faithful about the more difficult Church teachings. The every-once-in-a-while reminder causes plenty of controversy and discomfort. (I am thinking about the Pro-abortion politician’s receiving Communion issue.)
 
The greatest threat to the Church is and always has been the sinfulness of its members.

In Christ,

Edwin
 
La Chiara:
I’ll agree with you about the CINO’s but I don’t believe the Church intends to endorse the collegiality.
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Then why does Rome allow so many bishops to be contrary to Her teachings and not be corrected?
Puleeze! The Church gets trashed enough already for how many rules it has and how judgmental it is.
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Only by dissenters. The Church does not need to capitulate more, but less.
the reason so many Catholics leave the faith is because it is SOOOO much easier to be Protestant than to be Catholic.
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That is one big reason, yes. But, many do not leave and continue to tear down the Church.
So now the Church is going to get tough on every error?!
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Uh yea, you know…Preach the truth in season and out of season. By error we are not talking about liturgical abuses at mass like holding hands. We are talking about preaching error. Like telling precana couples birth control is not a grave sin.
I think the priests do not constantly “correct error” from the pulpit is because they will alienate most of their Mass-attending parishioners if they were rigid.
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Oh my, we would not want to alienate those pew potatos. Our collection might drop and that is the key to salvation. Keep that cash coming in and continue the IVF, abortion, contraception, euthanasia, fornication, but by all means, please lets get kumbaya together.
Besides, Catholics know what they are doing that is contrary to Church teachings.
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Yep, that is why I can’t see why so many claim most Catholics are not in mortal sin when they embrace all that our culture embraces and still run to receive communion without confession.
The Church hierarchy is an effective parent in my mind–every once in a while reminding the faithful about the more difficult Church teachings. The every-once-in-a-while reminder causes plenty of controversy and discomfort. (I am thinking about the Pro-abortion politician’s receiving Communion issue.)
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Perfect example of collegiality run amok. McCarrick lies to his brother bishops about Ratzinger’s letter. McCarrick is caught with his pants down and Ratzinger does not correct him and tell him to act as he ought and the rest of the US bishops ought to. Now we have most every bishop claiming they do not have do deny commuinon to manifest sinners even though Rome said the exact opposite. This is one small example.
 
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Joe65436:
How many of you still bless yourselfs when you drive by a Catholic Church?

I have heard stories from more experienced parishoners who remember days when this was the norm. I have now taken it upon myself to re-invent the sacred by blessing myself whenever I see a Catholic Church. And God has been kind. My wife is not Catholic, but she watches. And I can feel her leaning toward the faith because of the sacred.
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David B:
I selected other. I believe the greatest threat to the Church in the not so distant future will be Islam. Secularism and moral relativism are a good second in my opinion, but the secularists and moral relativists have such a low birth rate i think ultimately they won’t be a major factor in the distant future, whereas adherents of Islam have perhaps even a higher birth rate than Catholics or Evangelicals.
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After secularism & moral relativism have emasculated the churches along with the ambient civilization, Islam will have a fertile field in which to plant a religion of strength and discipline. I vote for Islam also, but AFTER secularism and moral relativism.
 
I voted Other - Islam!

There are only two evangelical movements in the modern world that I’m familiar with: Christianity and Islam. Each asserts it’s goal as being world evangelization, and it’s predominance over the other.

So like it or not Bingo buddies, we’re in the same kettle, and our real fight is with THEM not one another.

God bless us all,

DB
 
“If God is for us, who can be against us!” Remember the gates of hell will not prevail against our church and our God. We already know the outcome of the story.

The greatest threat against humanity, not the church is abortion, which is the direct result of secularism and personal greed.
 
I believe that the greatest threat is internal, from clergy and bishops failure to faithfully following the direction of the Holy Father.
 
****All those things you good people have listed go back to the same: disobedience. **Threats that come from within or were brought into the Church are all steeped in disobedience: All sin is rebellion and disobedience against God from the very first one to the very last.

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****All those things you good people have listed go back to the same: disobedience. ****Threats that come from within or were brought into the Church are all steeped in disobedience: All sin is rebellion and disobedience against God from the very first one to the very last.
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I suppose we could go one step farther and say that all disobedience is rooted in PRIDE. Agree?

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
Secularism and / or apathy/ indifference towards religion or spirituality.
 
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Shoshana:
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I suppose we could go one step farther and say that all disobedience is rooted in PRIDE. Agree?

Blessings,
Shoshana
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I agree.
 
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yinekka:
I think that the greatest threat to the Church today is the cancer within rather than the Protestants etc without. When so many of the bishops and theologians aren’t faithful to the authentic teachings of the Church how are the laity going to learn their Faith.?
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I also believe it is the cancer within, and wish that somehow we could generate some more prayer to cure this cancer within.
 
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