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1- it all depends on where you live. I’d say most locations have no training requirement to purchase and own a gun. Some have a training requirement to obtain a concealed carry permit. I don’t think it really helps as a requirement, we have very few incidents/accidents that point to a gap in user knowledge.

2 - yes, you need to know the rules on where you are going and take precautions, such as having a gun safe in your car.

3- I think the best approach is to arm a few of the administrators and other support staff in the schools. They did that near me about 4 yrs ago and it works well for them. This doesn’t preclude having an armed safety officer since they are also needed to engage on many other matters with and between students in a large school.

4 - suggest you show some curiosity and quiz your family members about how they do it and their concerns It really should be easy for you to spot their concealed carry, if you look for itl
 
Depends on how/where they carry. If I’ve got looser suit jacket on and a belt holster for my P238, there isn’t much visibility.
 
Hello.

I agree to gun ownership provided the gun is kept locked, the owner keeps up the gun and practices shooting it regularly at the gun range or wherever one does such a thing.

However, I also think having a weapon can be an invitation to use it, so there’d better be a darn good reason, a darn serious, immediate and important need to defend oneself other than if someone is in the armed forces or is a police officer.

I long ago, when I was 9 years old, decided I was not a person who should have a gun, but I won’t stand in the way of anyone who can responsibly own one.
 
I certainly hope you aren’t implying that abortion, the murder of a preborn child , and owning a firearm, a neutral, non animate lump of polymers and steel, are on the same logical plane…
 
As an American I can’t understand how folks in the UK accept laws that deny them basic rights. From what I understand, it is illegal to have anything that is specifically meant for self defense in the UK. No pepper spray, Billy club, nothing except for maybe a rape whistle.
Legitimate defense is not only a right, but a grave duty if you’re responsible for the safety of others, like your spouse and children. That’s Catholic teaching. How can you fulfill that duty if you’re denied the means to do so? Contrary to popular belief, it is impossible for police to protect you to any meaningful degree, so it’s up to you.
 
I was going with Bluebright’s example. Insert any country that prohibits their citizens from possessing self defense weapons as the example if you like.
The way I view it is that legitimate defense of myself and others is a right and a duty. If there are laws that interfere with those rights, they are unjust laws. Same goes for free speech and religious freedom.
 
I wasn’t really arguing about the right to own some sort of weapon tbh, but I was just wondering about the whole obsession with guns rather than wanting one for self defense
 
crenfro said:
better be a darn good reason
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Me having enough money in my pocket to buy one is all the justification I need. I don’t have to explain to anyone or plead with them I “need” a gun.

To quote Bill Shakespeare, “Reason, not the need”
 
Do you think we need to provide justification for our free speech and assembly as well?
 
CD45 said:
Hey everybody, just checking. Am I on a Catholic Social Justice thread site or The Archie Bunker Chat Room? The peace of the Lord be with you . . .
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What does Archie Bunker have to do with gun ownership?
 
Escabrosa said:
I was going with Bluebright’s example. Insert any country that prohibits their citizens from possessing self defense weapons as the example if you like.
The way I view it is that legitimate defense of myself and others is a right and a duty. If there are laws that interfere with those rights, they are unjust laws. Same goes for free speech and religious freedom.
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Oh, there are states that ban a lot of that as well. Not just other nations.
Lea101 said:
I wasn’t really arguing about the right to own some sort of weapon tbh, but I was just wondering about the whole obsession with guns rather than wanting one for self defense
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Do you have a hobby?

It’s amazing to me how someone’s hobby is someone else’s “obsession” with all the negative connotations and undertones one can pin to that word.
 
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Well, by saying that, it could be interpereted that they are on the same plane, morally speaking, which they very much are not
 
I would say that lawfully defending one’s life, family, and to an extent property is certainly a social justice issue.
 
This I know.

However, we are on a Catholic forum, and, from our bios, I can judge that we are both Catholics.

As such, the Church (logically) makes a large distinction between the ownership of an inanimate tool (a firearm) and the murder of a human person (abortion)
 
I detect sarcasam…

But, to roll with what you said, everything in moderation.
The Church affirms the fundamental human right to self-defense, and affirms the right of nations to control their sovereign territory within just and humane means.
 
If you feel so inclined, please, educate me.

And I, by no means, meant to place those issues mentioned above any higher than the Church, in Her infinite wisdom, has placed them.
 
Hello.

Freedom is the right to choose between what is good, it is not license. All I’m saying is that if there is no need to have a gun, why would you have one, but if there is a need, go and get one. I’m also saying be responsible with it. Have you ever seen the face of a parent whose child got a hold of their gun and committed suicide with it? I have.

It doesn’t sound like you’re interested in what I have to say here, so I will bow out of this thread.
 
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