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Well, not just “westerns” type masculinity … but just very basic, decent adult males as role models, like one might find in church.
 
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Rolling up their sleeves role model men!
 
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Manly role model men. With chariots!
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You mean Singapore is not in the UK? 😂

Just kidding.

I’ve been to Singapore :singapore: years ago. Felt like a sauna but y’all use the British style spelling there.
 
Some bears 🐻 think the second amendment has something to do with the right to arm bears.
 
Ender said:
What ought to be the starting point for addressing this problem is the fact that the overwhelming percentage of school shooters are themselves students.
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May 25: another school shooting, this time at Noblesville middle school in Indiana. The shooter was a seventh grader. At what point do we recognize there is a lot more going on here than simply access to guns? Clearly, however, there is no way a 12-13 year old kid should have access to a firearm.
 
How well will hardening the schools work?

The shooter is one of the students not a stranger off the streets.

Sure, children cannot purchase guns but they do have access to it via their negligent parents.
 
If you could define “Gun. Culture.” For us, I think we’d all be enlightened. Indeed.
 
TheOldColonel said:
If you could define “Gun. Culture.” For us, I think we’d all be enlightened. Indeed.
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It’s a culture where you can buy ammo next to the diapers. It’s a culture where you need to tell people if they can wear a sidearm in a Maccers. It’s a culture where you need to teach children how to protect themselves if someone is shooting at them. It’s a culture where the sale of military style weapons raises no eyebrows. It’s a culture where mass shootings results in no action whatsoever by the government. It’s a culture that says more guns are the solution and don’t consider it a problem. It’s a culture that results in over three hundred people being shot each day and doesn’t consider that abnormal.

Let me know if you want some more examples.
 
I liken it to Fire Extinguisher Culture. There was a time when, if your house caught fire, it just burned to the ground while you stood outside watching. That just the way things were done. But the widespread fear of fire has transformed the way we live.

Now, everywhere you look, there’s a fire extinguisher. Go to the bank… Fire extinguisher. Go to church… Fire extinguish. Go see a movie… Fire extinguisher. There’s obviously a widespread delusion that fire can happen anywhere. So, we must all now live in this culture of fear.

Despite the fact that fire extinguishers have injured and even killed people, they are widely available to the public and no screening or training is required to own one. There are no size limits and a citizen may own the same type of fire extinguish used by the military.

But when will we wake up? How many more people need be injured or killed by fire extinguishers before Congress acts to ban these terrible inventions. This problem is made even more complicated by the fact that fire departments, safety experts and insurence companies are pro fire extinguisher. But as long as Fire Extinguisher Culture persists, we can expect only more problems, more injuries, more deaths.

 
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When you have the time, let me know if that was a puerile attempt to deny that you have a gun culture or if maybe it was somehow anti gun. So difficult to tell…
 
Bradskii said:
It’s a culture where you can buy ammo next to the diapers.
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You can buy ammunition in stores that carry sporting goods, like Wal-Mart, but this is a bit like saying you can buy motor oil next to the orange juice. How shocking.
It’s a culture where you need to tell people if they can wear a sidearm in a Maccers.
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Is this different than a “car culture” where you need to be taught the motor vehicle laws so you can follow them?
It’s a culture where you need to teach children how to protect themselves if someone is shooting at them.
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You don’t actually have to teach them that. It’s an instinctive thing.
It’s a culture where the sale of military style weapons raises no eyebrows.
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Right, because a rifle with a pistol grip is so much more lethal than a rifle without one.
It’s a culture where mass shootings results in no action whatsoever by the government.
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Again, how is this different than the inaction on immigration? Does this mean we have an “immigration culture”?
It’s a culture that says more guns are the solution and don’t consider it a problem.
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Like your other examples, this bears no resemblance to reality. Everyone recognizes there is a problem, it’s just that there is massive disagreement over that to do about it.
 
IWantGod said:
Short of being a psychopath-murderer ( although not all psychopaths are murderer’s )?.
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We must remember, people are not born like this. They are born innocent like everyone else. And their motives are very different to normal killers/criminals. No, people are not born like this, they are made
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I agree. I believe persons so disordered by nurture are called sociopaths rather than psychopaths which implies a biological defect. An interesting article recently argues so.

 
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Bradskii:
It’s a culture where you can buy ammo next to the diapers.
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You can buy ammunition in stores that carry sporting goods, like Wal-Mart, but this is a bit like saying you can buy motor oil next to the orange juice. How shocking.
It’s a culture where you need to tell people if they can wear a sidearm in a Maccers.
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Is this different than a “car culture” where you need to be taught the motor vehicle laws so you can follow them?
It’s a culture where you need to teach children how to protect themselves if someone is shooting at them.
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You don’t actually have to teach them that. It’s an instinctive thing.
It’s a culture where the sale of military style weapons raises no eyebrows.
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Right, because a rifle with a pistol grip is so much more lethal than a rifle without one.
It’s a culture where mass shootings results in no action whatsoever by the government.
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Again, how is this different than the inaction on immigration? Does this mean we have an “immigration culture”?
It’s a culture that says more guns are the solution and don’t consider it a problem.
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Like your other examples, this bears no resemblance to reality. Everyone recognizes there is a problem, it’s just that there is massive disagreement over that to do about it.
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It’s telling that you effectively agreed with every point. And the fact that you consider, for example, ammo being sold next to the fluffy toys is entirely normal just goes to prove the point. Weapons are part of your culture.

Why on earth do you feel the need to argue against the bleedin’ obvious?
 
IWantGod said:
We must remember, people are not born like this. They are born innocent like everyone else.
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nope,
Genesis 8:21
The LORD smelled the soothing aroma; and the LORD said to Himself, "I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of man’s heart is evil from his youth; and I will never again destroy every living thing, as I have done.
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Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth.
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Romans 3:10 - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
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nobody is innocent.
 
I guess it depends on what you mean by innocent. But i am not going to argue with you. Every Catholic knows that we are born with original sin. Nobody is born a saint.
 
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