Gun sales skyrocket during coronavirus pandemic

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There is definitely mass hysteria. I believe both in the media, certain elected officials, and clearly among the populace. Seeing toiletries and gun sales skyrocketing during a crisis is proof. Ironically, I’d say of the two, the behavior of those hoarding essential items like toilet paper is much more sinful than those hoarding luxury items that most families statistically don’t actually covet.

None of it is healthy, but until they break some law, they don’t technically owe me an explanation either.
 
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Dr_Meinheimer said:
There is definitely mass hysteria. I believe both in the media, certain elected officials, and clearly among the populace
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Concise FACTS alone left to the experts would clear up the pandemonium, and it’s been done almost q day from the bully pulpit news conferences.

I feel the dire straights of Trumps own pandemic team have to “follow up” his statements with facts, whether its truth about possible drug combination therapy, or the FACT it was going to get much worst before we see it just “go away”…It’s probably a great reason the stock market became so volatile, so quickly.

Do want to see “some” hysteria subside? Truth helps, he needs to step aside and let Dr. Fauci, handle the infectious disease information to the public.

When you’re informed, only then can precise decisions be made. Truth and accuracy are paramount in reducing anxiety.
 
Regardless of what you think of Trump’s handling (I think it has been great) or what Fauci has to say, the hysteria is solely on the individuals being hysterical.

You honestly think the people stockipiling guns or toilet paper or clearing out every egg in the local grocery stores are doing so as a result of watching press conferences? Please. There are a myriad of factors, and concerns are warranted in many cases, but many of the reactions we are seeing are neurotic and frankly insane. I have encountered healthy people not part of any susceptible demographic who literally think we should all be equipped with ventilators and locked in our homes for a few months. Those people are nuts.
 
Is it funny? Self defense is not defense of property. That’s the law. I don’t know why you are not addressing what I said.
 
Yes, those are truly obscene. But that is a single day. Amazon still has hardly any toilet paper for sale weeks later. Show me a black Friday where that happened.
 
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That is an interesting assertion; where did you read it?
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As to wagon trains: “Trains of a thousand wagons would pass without engaging in gunfire with a single Indian, but few made the journey without these doleful entries: … ‘He pulled his gun out of the wagon unmindful that it as loaded, and it blew his chest open. He lived six minutes.’… For every white man killed by an Indian, and there were almost none, fifty or sixty others killed themselves or their neighbors by accidental gunfire.” “Centennial”, James A. Michener, Fawcett Crest edition (1974), 376.
 
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“The mythology of guns in American history is that we owe guns for our independence; guns opened the frontier; guns defended the homestead; they provided sustenance when you needed to hunt to feed your family,” he says. “All of those things are true, to an extent. But this great untold story of guns in American history is the way in which they brought unending hapless tragedy to those who kept them in their homes, in their families.”
https://www.amazon.com/Melancholy-A...ywords=manseau&qid=1584894408&s=books&sr=1-12
 
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I’ve read Centennial . It’s a novel, a work of fiction.**
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… and Michener was a noted historian. " One of the great novelists of the twentieth century, James A. Michener, set one of his best-known novels right here in Colorado. Michener spent a great deal of time in Colorado researching Centennial, renting an apartment in Capitol Hill and also spending much time in the northern part of the state, where the novel is set."

The History Behind the Fiction: James Michener’s "Centennial" – Colorado Virtual Library

www.coloradovirtuallibrary.org www.coloradovirtuallibrary.org

"Despite the popularity of his novels, Michener received mixed critical reviews. Some called him mediocre and long-winded, relying too much on trivial historical detail and not enough on imaginative language and subtlety. Others praised his ability to mold the vast amount of research into a story that taught about cultural diversity. Said Nelson DeMille in People Weekly, “He’s the grand old man of historical fiction” who “didn’t play with the facts. He got them across in such a way that you actually learned something.”
http://www.browsebiography.com/bio-james_michener.html

You asked for the research behind the claim and I provided it.
 
Nepperhan said:
You asked for the research behind the claim and I provided it.
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What you have provided is a work of fiction and some biographical information about its author. This should not be confused with research.
 
jeannetherese said:
What you have provided is a work of fiction and some biographical information about its author. This should not be confused with research.
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You asked where I got the information so I provided it. It is reasonable to question the veracity of Michener’s claim but I showed he was a credible historian and thorough researcher.

You said that you read the book but you did not recall the passage I cited?
 
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The passage you cited is a passage in a work of fiction. It does not bolster your claim.
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Well, in that work of fiction, the writer cited written diaries of the immigrants and he cited statistical records. Those two items are not fictional. What he stated about gun accidents is not part of the fictional narrative of the book. So all one can do is question his research.

And you quibble.
 
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Maximus1 said:
Is it funny? Self defense is not defense of property. That’s the law. I don’t know why you are not addressing what I said.
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The law seems to be irrelevant in some jurisdictions now, like Philly, LA and SF. Laws protecting property are being intentionally ignored.
Do you have a suggestion on how people protect their property and their right to it if law enforcement abdicates its responsibilities to the law abiding public, essentially aiding and abetting criminals?
 
Nepperhan appealing to a cowboy fiction and storytelling book . . .
For every white man killed by an Indian, and there were almost none, fifty or sixty others killed themselves or their neighbors by accidental gunfire.” “Centennial”, James A. Michener, Fawcett Crest edition (1974), 376.
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This is not persuasive Nepperhan. At least to me.
 
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(name removed by moderator). Very reasonable to protect your family.

The Church teaches, if you are forced into that situation from a bad guy,
and the bad guy gets hurt, (assuming you are not using gratuitous amounts of force for the situation), or even if the bad guy passes away, it is HIS fault.

(Or her fault as the case may be.)
. . . . “the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose action brought it about. . . . .” — Pope Saint John Paul II said in Evangelium Vitae (section 55).
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Dr_Meinheimer said:
You honestly think the people stockipiling guns or toilet paper or clearing out every egg in the local grocery stores are doing so as a result of watching press conferences?
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add the media plus Trump? Yes. Yes, I do. If the stock market jumps and falls on his words, (which it does) you betcha.
 
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