Harvard Will Host 'Reenactment' of Satanic Mass

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The thing that really bugs me about this is the dishonesty. If they were in fact Satanists I wouldn’t be bothered nearly as much (assuming they use an unconsecrated host). The fact that they are atheists who don’t believe in God or Satan makes it much worse becuase it’s clear it’s about making fun of Christians or getting us angry so they can then make fun of the reaction (maybe show how intolerant we are). When your sole purpose is to make fun of someone or antagonize them, there can be no meaningful dialog. If they were at least honest about their intentions there could possibly be something to learn.
It is an evil alright. I note the article linked earlier in the thread that seemed to say a Consecrated Host would be used from what I remember was from calling the Satanic Cult. Of course, they can not be counted to be truthful.
 
Its a shame to see a once revered academic institution like Harvard go down this road. If I had a Harvard Diploma I would burn it.
 
Anyone wonder why Satanists would never defile a Muslim prayer service, or use Mormon bread and water for their Black Masses? Because they know the truth. They know the Catholic Church is true and that the host really is Jesus. This is just affirmation of that for me.

However I have to wonder, if a human knew that demons (and therefore God) were real, why work for the bad side?!
Satanists would likely be too scared to defile or defy anything related to Islam. Muslims arent exactly pacifists. A lot of Mormons are caught up in Freemasonry, and Satanists and Freemasons have much respect for one another (Im not implying ALL Mormons are, or that Mormons are Satanic).

People who know the truth but choose to work for the bad side want their rewards here and now, simple as that. However, it doesnt take formally worshipping Satan to be a selfish human. Everytime we choose sin and ourselves over the good of God and another, we glorify Satan.
 
It is an evil alright. I note the article linked earlier in the thread that seemed to say a Consecrated Host would be used from what I remember was from calling the Satanic Cult. Of course, they can not be counted to be truthful.
I read that too. The transcript led me to believe that the girl that answered the phone may not even know what consecrated means (which wouldn’t surprise me). The Harvard Extension Cultural Studies Club press release stated it is not consecrated. I’m hoping they are right.

I agree that we shouldn’t trust them. They don’t believe in the real presence so why would they care either way.
 
If I were attending Harvard, I would try to organize a multi-denominational Christian prayer event at the same time as the black mass. Reacting to the black mass clearly plays into their hands, but creating a joy filled alternative might give people some pause.
 
If I were attending Harvard, I would try to organize a multi-denominational Christian prayer event at the same time as the black mass. Reacting to the black mass clearly plays into their hands, but creating a joy filled alternative might give people some pause.
Excellent idea!
 
The thing that really bugs me about this is the dishonesty. If they were in fact Satanists I wouldn’t be bothered nearly as much (assuming they use an unconsecrated host). The fact that they are atheists who don’t believe in God or Satan makes it much worse becuase it’s clear it’s about making fun of Christians or getting us angry so they can then make fun of the reaction (maybe show how intolerant we are). When your sole purpose is to make fun of someone or antagonize them, there can be no meaningful dialog. If they were at least honest about their intentions there could possibly be something to learn.
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Its a shame to see a once revered academic institution like Harvard go down this road. If I had a Harvard Diploma I would burn it.
Don’t burn it. Fight against what they ALLOW, not what they represent and truly (and are supposed to) stand for. 👍👍
 
If I were attending Harvard, I would try to organize a multi-denominational Christian prayer event at the same time as the black mass. Reacting to the black mass clearly plays into their hands, but creating a joy filled alternative might give people some pause.
I think that is the best response for this. I would not attend, of course----but I would allow them their freedom of speech and create a succesful alternative and “response” to this.

Good job.

And thank you for being here. 👍)👍
 
What is the difference between a ‘reenactment’ of satanic mass and a satanic mass?
 
There have been people here asking how they could get their hands on a consecrated host. There are really only two possibilities that I see, and one of them has been mentioned here already.

The first would be to steal one. This can be done simply by receiving in the hand and allowing it to slide down your sleeve when you appear to place it in your mouth, or some other form of slight of hand.

The second way to get one, and one that I think people are afraid to acknowledge, is to have a satanic priest consecrate one. Yes, there are ordained Catholic priests who are secretly Satanists. If anyone thinks that none of the over 800 priests who have been defrocked over the past couple of decades for child abuse were secret Satanists, then that’s a fantasy. Child sex abuse and sacrifice is part of the Satanic ritual practice, and per the Satanic Bible, is considered to provide the abuser/sacrificer with particularly potent spiritual powers.

It’s all nonsense of course, but this is what they believe, and there are Catholic priests who have fallen into that kind of evil. Not all consecrated hosts are garnered through theft. Perhaps the more mediocre satanic temples (like the one in the article which is really ostensibly atheist) gain access through theft. But the more serious, deeply occult groups probably have their own priests who regularly consecrate hosts for their evil practices.
 
If I were attending Harvard, I would try to organize a multi-denominational Christian prayer event at the same time as the black mass. Reacting to the black mass clearly plays into their hands, but creating a joy filled alternative might give people some pause.
The Diocese is holding an hour of prayer at the local Catholic Church at the same time as the Satanic ceremony. The Diocese has strongly objected to Harvard their willingness to allow this ceremony.
 
I think Satan has long been active at Harvard. At least he finally shows himself.
To the points:
Just because the Gnostics copied it from us earlier doesn’t make Mass less a Catholic “thing.”
Likewise, I think it’s less incitatory if they can prove they used an unconsecrated Gnostic host, or maybe even made their own. Where does one get unconsecrated hosts, anyway? And would the organization that makes it - whether monastery, specialty bakery, or commercial bakery - have been willing to sell it? I’ve looked into low-gluten hosts and found they are only sold to Catholic parishes, period; the $atanic Temple either purchased from an organization that doesn’t have a policy against it, or procured it by lying, or by theft.
These people are atheists, not real Satanists. They do this to poke fun at and antagonize Christians. That is their only purpose, I wouldn’t expect to learn that much from them. I think it was Anton Levy’s only pupose too, he was an atheist.
Reminds me of an atheist I got into an argument with once at a keg party (yeah, that’s an interesting story in and of itself). By the end of it, he was stomping around outside cursing God and yelling for God to strike him down. The other partygoers were standing outside thoughtfully looking on and saying “Wow, it’d be really cool if God actually did strike him down.” He did get hit by a car later that night, or more like fell off of mine as we were driving away.

Here’s the thing I don’t grok, then. Harvard approves the black mass as an extension of cultural diversity - celebrating the culture of satanism. The $atanic Temple puts it on as a parody of religion, rather than as their own cultural or religious belief (as they’ve noted, bunch of atheists). So the cultural diversity committee is really not celebrating a religion so much as the parodying of religion. In other words, why not hold a Pastafarian event … if they have any kind of celebration?
A Harvard student recently wrote that academic freedom was a bad thing and we should have "[urlhttp://www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice/]=academic justice
," in which nothing that makes her uncomfortable is studied or has papers written about, certainly not at that bastion of liberalism, diversity, and tolerance known as Harvard!

Harvard is a foreign country, as far as I’m concerned. It doesn’t understand me and neither do its uppity, trust-fund graduates with their misguided notions of how to make the world better. I see little reason to ally myself with them in any endeavor, yet I’d rather protect them from openly inviting evil onto its campus.
Since this is a Harvard ‘educational and informational event,’ perhaps the sponsors could invite Satan himself to attend and answer questions.
He’s already there. He’s been there a long, long time.

I like this idea, quite a bit.
If I were attending Harvard, I would try to organize a multi-denominational Christian prayer event at the same time as the black mass. Reacting to the black mass clearly plays into their hands, but creating a joy filled alternative might give people some pause.
I like another idea as well.
Boycott Harvard. Let’s get 10,000 emails into the Cultural Studies Club (culturalstudiesclub@gmail.com) with the following:
"I condemn the re-enactment of the so-called Black Mass as a manifestation of evil and an offense to the Christian Mass. The Black Mass arose as a mockery of the Christian Mass, and its practice as a mockery of the Christian faith. You may as well stage a re-enactment of the defenestration of priests by John Calvin, or the guillotining of the clergy by French Revolutionaries. Both are historic events as well, and hold far greater relevance to understanding cultural differences than does this Black Mass.

I know this means little to you, but I offer you this much:
I will not attend Harvard nor write a letter of reference for any student to attend Harvard. I will not sign up for classes through Harvard’s extension or online programs, nor recommend to anyone that they do so.
I will not attend a conference or sporting event sponsored by Harvard.
I will not read anything written by a Harvard scholar, nor published by the Harvard press."
 
There have been people here asking how they could get their hands on a consecrated host. There are really only two possibilities that I see, and one of them has been mentioned here already.

The first would be to steal one. This can be done simply by receiving in the hand and allowing it to slide down your sleeve when you appear to place it in your mouth, or some other form of slight of hand.
Theft can occur in the mouth too - dry mouth and make for the door immediately after. Hopefully this thread doesn’t go full COTT vs. CITH debate though.
But the more serious, deeply occult groups probably have their own priests who regularly consecrate hosts for their evil practices.
How would that even be valid? I thought “doing what the church has always meant to do” was a requirement for sacrament to be valid and consecrating for the express and intended purpose of desecration sounds pretty invalid to me, but I’ll let an expert chime in on that.
 
Seriously CAN’T WAIT to pray the Rosary at 8:00 pm on Monday. Join us! :gopray:
 
Even if the host was consecrated, why is that a big deal? They cant hurt Jesus or defile Him no matter how much they wish to. All theyre doing is bringing judgment onto themselves, as St Paul says.

Btw, why do Satanists use relics and hosts for their rituals? What do they really think theyre accomplishing by doing this?
 
Even if the host was consecrated, why is that a big deal? They cant hurt Jesus or defile Him no matter how much they wish to. All theyre doing is bringing judgment onto themselves, as St Paul says.
The point is that Harvard is funding something with the express purpose of causing offense to Catholics. If they use an unconsecrated host, that mitigates it to some small extent. Think of it this way - would it be within the mission of the Cultural Awareness folks if we wanted to hold a Koran-burning on-campus, to raise awareness of Koran-burning as practiced by American conservatives?
Btw, why do Satanists use relics and hosts for their rituals? What do they really think theyre accomplishing by doing this?
Everything is mockery. Everything is desecration.To mock God is to deny Him.
 
Seriously CAN’T WAIT to pray the Rosary at 8:00 pm on Monday. Join us! :gopray:
YES! I will join you in spirit. And ill get other denominations to pray against this too! We NEED to get EVERYONE in on a prayer campaign for Harvard, and the entire city.
 
The point is that Harvard is funding something with the express purpose of causing offense to Catholics. If they use an unconsecrated host, that mitigates it to some small extent. Think of it this way - would it be within the mission of the Cultural Awareness folks if we wanted to hold a Koran-burning on-campus, to raise awareness of Koran-burning as practiced by American conservatives?

Everything is mockery. Everything is desecration.To mock God is to deny Him.
I get that it would be offensive to many people, but Im not concerned with the emotional aspect as I am with the reality of things.

They cant mock or desecrate Him, even if they think they are. If Satan couldn’t hurt God, either through tempting Him or attacking Him, neither can weak, feeble humans.

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Would it be wrong if someone did a walk by splashing of Holy Water on the Black Mass attendees? Would that desecrate their desecrations? 😛
 
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