Honduras immigrants

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Victoria33 said:
Let’s not forget the great failures of Cuba
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Who’s refugees, until 2017, simply had to set foot on the soil of the US in order to be granted a fast track to citizenship.

Why are we so afraid of refugees?
 
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That’s not a very courteous or civil response.

This in no way, addresses crimes that migrants are made the victim of coming here. I’ll say it, the stories that the Zetas forced migrants to fight each other for Gladiator enttertainment bothers me if it bothers no one else.
 
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Caravan members have been kidnapped. This means that the caravan has been victimized by criminals. We used to care about giving asylum to people who were victims of crimes. Sorry if that is not charitable or civil, but, I will live by “I was a stranger and you welcomed me”.
 
So, if they weren’t in the Caravan to begin with, they would not have been the victims of crime.
 
Chances are even or better, that the Caravan is a political stunt and nothing more. Let’s take care of people who really need help then.
 
I wonder if Chicago residents can go north and claim asylum in Canada? Plenty of victims of crime there too. 🤔
 
Victoria33 said:
So, if they weren’t in the Caravan to begin with, they would not have been the victims of crime.
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They would likely have been victimized even more if they were travelling alone, and if they are fleeing violence in their home country, they would likely have been victimized if they stayed home.
 
Speculation, nothing backs this up, it is just as likely what the Pres of Guatemala or Honduras said, set up by Venezuela and leftist groups. Emotional appeal with no proof.
 
Let’s not make them either with magnets to immigrate illegally.
 
Not sure what that means, magnets? Like the big U shaped magnets? Electro magnets? How do magnets help people in the process of applying for asylum?
 
That is untrue for many of the people on the path towards asylum. Most ARE crime victims and that is why they are migrating.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
It is well-documented that refugees are victimized as they travel across Mexico. It is also well-documented that refugees choose to travel in larger groups for mutual protection.
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I said that myself, however this is not the question.

It was implied here, the point is so much on a tangent, I don’t think I will address it.

However, what we do know is many migrants have been killed in Mexico, they are subjected to blackmail. I would surmise those who are for lenient border enforcement do no favor to these people.

Alone, in San Fernando Mexico, there have been 2 massacres of persons from various countries, Ecuador, Brazil and so on.

 
Victoria33 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
It is well-documented that refugees are victimized as they travel across Mexico. It is also well-documented that refugees choose to travel in larger groups for mutual protection.
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I said that myself, however this is not the question.

It was implied here, the point is so much on a tangent, I don’t think I will address it.

However, what we do know is many migrants have been killed in Mexico, they are subjected to blackmail. I would surmise those who are for lenient border enforcement do no favor to these people.
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I don’t know of anyone who is for lenient border enforcement. I do see people who are for lenient consideration at legal points of entry to those who are claiming asylum.
 
13pollitos said:
That is untrue for many of the people on the path towards asylum. Most ARE crime victims and that is why they are migrating.
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So, one person has already been killed in the 2nd Caravan by a bullet. I don’t understand what you are saying. Your saying this person, a Honduran would have been killed if he stayed in Honduras? That’s a reach.

This caravan was organized by leftist groups in Honduras, financed in part by Venezuela, that all according to the president of Honduras (Juan Orlando Hernández), who told me that personally,” Pence told Fox Business’ Trish Regan. “They were sent north for the sole and exclusive reason of challenging the laws of the United States of America by coming into our country illegally, and the president has made it clear that we’re not going to allow it.”


Now, one can claim "oh, this is the Vice President but it has been reported that the Honduras President has made this claim. I think they have found other backup.

By the way, everyone, it sounds like the Caravan even though there are conflicting stories, has totally broken down, it didn’t make it here by election day and that may have been its purpose. The Caravan story may totally be passe now.
 
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