How God could be omnipresent if He is spiritual?

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Can you please tell me how Satan can tempt people? You of course don’t know but he knows well. That means that Satan is superior to us.
I do know…

Personal choice and the choice to give in to others instead of to give to God.

Why can Satan tempt? Why if I tell some people to kill someone there are those who would follow me. But why do some NOT listen?

Why by the same logic do some nit listen to Satan? That is the proof that Satan can not rule without consent. It is to stand with God that one can have the full armor against Satan.
 
Can you please tell me how Satan can tempt people? You of course don’t know but he knows well. That means that Satan is superior to us.
Angels (this includes Satan and the fallen angels) do not depend have their own bodies to use to either acquire ideas or communicate ideas to others.
 
Superior intellect, yeah. Not superior worth. And since satan is a creature, and God the creator, God will always win. “No servant is greater than his master.”
The Devil, before his fall, was Lucifer, the shining one, the light-bearer, the bringer of dawn, the light-bringer.
It goes to show how, try as one might to thwart God’s will, one’s very attempt to do so, as much as it brings evil into the world, cannot, because of God’s intervention, but result in good.
Out of pride and hate for mankind and God, Satan seduced us; in response God brought about the greatest demonstration of His love - Jesus Christ.
Though intent on bringing us his “knowledge”, which is but illusion and lies, the Devil’s actions brought us the revelation of the Light of the world.
 
Everything that exists, exists; it is.
Existence has no weight, takes up no space, does not come and go - the object does.
Think Existence as the cause of all that is. It is everywhere and beyond everything, because it brings everything into existence and does not disappear when the object does.
The spirit is “breath”, “life”, “love”.
That is the definition of nothingness (bolded part).
The cause of everything is God. He has created me with the capacity to love as well as to do harm directly by what I do or indirectly by what I fail to do. I cannot blame God for what I do. I plead mercy because I know how good He is and what could be accomplished were I more faithful. I praise and give thanks.
You didn’t get my post. Suppose you do a sin that God send you to Hell because of that. Who is responsible for this? God. Because if you trace back about origin of your sin you reach to God. Why you should be sent to Hell?
It isn’t short nor simple for all to understand, but:
vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p7.htm
I was thinking of my thread in which you address “Again, on other threads you have addressed the Christian concept of original sin and have learned nothing.”
 
I do know…
How? You didn’t explain anything.
Personal choice and the choice to give in to others instead of to give to God.
What do you mean with giving to God instead of others. God doesn’t need anything.
Why can Satan tempt? Why if I tell some people to kill someone there are those who would follow me. But why do some NOT listen?
My question is that why God set Satan free so he could temp us knowing the fact that he is superior to us and finally win against us and we do sin? The same story as fall of Adam and eve.
Why by the same logic do some nit listen to Satan? That is the proof that Satan can not rule without consent. It is to stand with God that one can have the full armor against Satan.
Are you sinless?
 
You accept that he is superior to us?
Someone with an IQ of 150 is superior intellect to someone with an IQ 100.

This does not make them inherently “superior” nor give them the direct “power” to tempt/control the other with certainty…
 
. . . Existence has no weight, takes up no space, does not come and go . . .
Are you suggesting that you do not exist? What you say is too complex to be constructed by a random quote generator.
You didn’t get my post. Suppose you do a sin that God send you to Hell because of that. Who is responsible for this? God. Because if you trace back about origin of your sin you reach to God. Why you should be sent to Hell?
When we sin, we damage the relationship between ourselves and God. God is Love. Love is Beauty and Truth. In communion with God we are participants in His Beatific Vision. In hell, having severed our connection with God, we are in a dark prison, which as CS Lewis described as being locked from the inside.
I was thinking of my thread in which you address “Again, on other threads you have addressed the Christian concept of original sin and have learned nothing.”
I sound rather harsh here, and sorry but I do not have the time to review years of your postings and threads.
The link to the Catechism should help if you are interested in the Christian concept of original sin. Your understanding is incorrect.

From the CCC:
404 . . . The whole human race is in Adam “as one body of one man”.293 By this “unity of the human race” all men are implicated in Adam’s sin, as all are implicated in Christ’s justice. Still, the transmission of original sin is a mystery that we cannot fully understand. But we do know by Revelation that Adam had received original holiness and justice not for himself alone, but for all human nature. By yielding to the tempter, Adam and Eve committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state.294 It is a sin which will be transmitted by propagation to all mankind, that is, by the transmission of a human nature deprived of original holiness and justice. And that is why original sin is called “sin” only in an analogical sense: it is a sin “contracted” and not “committed” - a state and not an act.
405 Although it is proper to each individual,295 original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam’s descendants. It is a deprivation of original holiness and justice, but human nature has not been totally corrupted: it is wounded in the natural powers proper to it,** subject to ignorance, suffering and the dominion of death, and inclined to sin** - an inclination to evil that is called concupiscence". Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ’s grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle.
406 The Church’s teaching on the transmission of original sin was articulated more precisely in the fifth century, especially under the impulse of St. Augustine’s reflections against Pelagianism, and in the sixteenth century, in opposition to the Protestant Reformation. Pelagius held that man could, by the natural power of free will and without the necessary help of God’s grace, lead a morally good life; he thus reduced the influence of Adam’s fault to bad example. The first Protestant reformers, on the contrary, taught that original sin has radically perverted man and destroyed his freedom; they identified the sin inherited by each man with the tendency to evil (concupiscentia), which would be insurmountable. The Church pronounced on the meaning of the data of Revelation on original sin especially at the second Council of Orange (529)296 and at the Council of Trent (1546).297
A hard battle. . .
407 The doctrine of original sin, closely connected with that of redemption by Christ, provides lucid discernment of man’s situation and activity in the world. By our first parents’ sin, the devil has acquired a certain domination over man, even though man remains free. Original sin entails “captivity under the power of him who thenceforth had the power of death, that is, the devil”. Ignorance of the fact that man has a wounded nature inclined to evil gives rise to serious errors in the areas of education, politics, social action and morals.
408 The consequences of original sin and of all men’s personal sins put the world as a whole in the sinful condition aptly described in St. John’s expression, “the sin of the world”.300 This expression can also refer to the negative influence exerted on people by communal situations and social structures that are the fruit of men’s sins.301
409 This dramatic situation of “the whole world [which] is in the power of the evil one” makes man’s life a battle:
The whole of man’s history has been the story of dour combat with the powers of evil, stretching, so our Lord tells us, from the very dawn of history until the last day. Finding himself in the midst of the battlefield man has to struggle to do what is right, and it is at great cost to himself, and aided by God’s grace, that he succeeds in achieving his own inner integrity.303
 
Angels (this includes Satan and the fallen angels) do not depend have their own bodies to use to either acquire ideas or communicate ideas to others.
How they could acquire the idea and communicate with others if they have no body/brain? Idea can only be acquired only if you have a brain and can be only communicated only if you have a body and a medium.

You didn’t answer my question either. Satan need to be inside our mind in order to tempt us. How such a thing is possible?
 
How? You didn’t explain anything.
I like anyone, would have to write a book to describe a lifelong journey of research and discovery spanning decades… my final conclusion was in line with Catholiscm so you can see the pre existing book 😛
What do you mean with giving to God instead of others. God doesn’t need anything.
To love and worship God.

“Need” hmm well you miss a point. I do not need a single human to exist on earth to live. I can live on earth and hunt, gather, farm and build shelter. But it sure is nice to play video games and order pizza…
My question is that why God set Satan free so he could temp us knowing** the fact that he is superior to us** …
and** finally win against us** and we do sin? The same story as fall of Adam and eve.
First point I have pointed out is wrong in numerous posts and threads…

Second, Satan does not win against everyone. And not every sin is inherent of Satan. One can sin like Satan without Satan.
Are you sinless?
No, my sins are apart from Satan however… they are mine and mine alone. I wish I could blame his influence.
 
How they could acquire the idea and communicate with others if they have no body/brain? Idea can only be acquired only if you have a brain and can be only communicated only if you have a body and a medium.

You didn’t answer my question either. Satan need to be inside our mind in order to tempt us. How such a thing is possible?
Radio signals contain information and nothing corporeal and can be communicated to and through the corporeal…
 
So that is a fair saying that your religion could be erroneous because all truth was not reviled by Jesus and theologians could be wrong on specific topic because they are human being.
Why would God become incarnate, live through a life of pain and suffering while gathering a group of believers, be treated the way He was treated, suffer a horrid death, rise from the dead and give his followers instructions on how to gather more people into the faith and then not make provisions for the preservation of the faith? Answer - He would not therefore He gave us the Holy Spirit.
For what purpose? God doesn’t need anything. Why we should be suffering?
Sin
Satan is supper intelligent and can take his way into you.
But I have the protection of the Holy Spirit within me.
 
A serial killer.
No, Bahman. A serial killer is not “fully evil”. He may pick up litter from the street. He may have respect for his body. He may not fling epithets around when he speaks. He may give money to the homeless.

No human person is “fully evil”.
 
Based on what? You need to have a canon for Truth by which you can measure your faith and compare it to mine.

What’s that canon?
Because I see error in your system of thinking which is partially due to scripture and partially is due to church teaching. You want an example, just answer the question raised in this thread.
No, Bahman. You posted a nonsequitur.

Please answer my question.

If I had posed a question that began with “Why”, then it is permissible for you to to respond with “Because”.

But my question began with “What”.

So, again, what’s the canon you use for determining whether one person’s faith is “more true” than another’s?
In fact my faith looks like more true than yours:.
 
Someone with an IQ of 150 is superior intellect to someone with an IQ 100.

This does not make them inherently “superior” nor give them the direct “power” to tempt/control the other with certainty…
Satan can enter inside your mind and tempt you. Do you know how he could do that? He can tempt in a way that you think the temptation is yours. That means that they are superior to us because you cannot know that a mental state does belong to you or it is a temptation.
 
Are you suggesting that you do not exist? What you say is too complex to be constructed by a random quote generator.
No. I am saying that I am alive because I have a body and a brain. My question is that the definition of spiritual is erroneous because your definition is definition of nothingness.
When we sin, we damage the relationship between ourselves and God. God is Love. Love is Beauty and Truth. In communion with God we are participants in His Beatific Vision. In hell, having severed our connection with God, we are in a dark prison, which as CS Lewis described as being locked from the inside.
That is not an answer to my question.
I sound rather harsh here, and sorry but I do not have the time to review years of your postings and threads.
The link to the Catechism should help if you are interested in the Christian concept of original sin. Your understanding is incorrect.

From the CCC:
That is alright.
 
To love and worship God.
God doesn’t need anything. So what is the purpose of worshiping?
First point I have pointed out is wrong in numerous posts and threads…

Second, Satan does not win against everyone. And not every sin is inherent of Satan. One can sin like Satan without Satan.

No, my sins are apart from Satan however… they are mine and mine alone. I wish I could blame his influence.
Satan can simply put you in stage madnesses. I can tell you this from about my own experience. He just have mercy upon us. Moreover you didn’t answer my question that why God set Satan free?
 
Why would God become incarnate, live through a life of pain and suffering while gathering a group of believers, be treated the way He was treated, suffer a horrid death, rise from the dead and give his followers instructions on how to gather more people into the faith and then not make provisions for the preservation of the faith? Answer - He would not therefore He gave us the Holy Spirit.
So you are basically are saying that people in the church are receiving revelation and they are prophet?
But I am not responsible for original sin. So why I should be here suffering?
But I have the protection of the Holy Spirit within me.
So you are sinless?
 
No, Bahman. A serial killer is not “fully evil”. He may pick up litter from the street. He may have respect for his body. He may not fling epithets around when he speaks. He may give money to the homeless.

No human person is “fully evil”.
I guess you are correct because I don’t have any good example.
 
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