How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Gottle_of_Geer]

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:

1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:

Ro 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

Ro 3:10 “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:”

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

1. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.

Ro 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Ro 5:8 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It’s the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won’t go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

1. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:

Ro 10:9,10 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
(KJV)

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?

1. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,

“Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

I chose 1. - because it is Jesus Christ Who subdues all idolatries, whether the Church, the Saints, the means of grace, or our own ideas, are the idols. He keeps all those lesser things in their proper place & proportion. ​

 

[Linkowski]

Another bit of empty allegation without supporting proof.

Especially since if one tests the fruit of such consecrations you find holier lives, greater charity, and a deeper commitment to Christ and the spread of the Gospel.

Idolatry? Open your own thread and prove it. You can’t, can you?

Again, you make allegations against me that in all your time here at CAF you have never once been able to substantiate…so…again…you resort to propaganda.

Oh… and BTW…if you did have the God-given common sense to listen to those early church authors “outside the Bible” you’d have long ago seen the errors of the beliefs you have bought into since what you preach is not found in the plain sense of the New Testament nor in the writings of the early church who gave their very lives for the faith.

What does the New Testament say about people in the last days? 3 For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: 4 And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy:4

The “fathers” were given more creedence than the Word in the case of the Rabbi as well…seems this way in your case…your allegation is fitting more for yourself than I.

 

[Philthy]

Although baptism is an act of obedience required of all Christians, it does not save. Paul understood that clearly. To the Romans he wrote:
[This is] the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. (Rom. 10:8–10)
Paul preached that salvation came from belief in the heart (cf. Acts 16:31; Rom. 3:28) and public confession of that faith (cf. Matt. 10:32; Rom. 10:13). Obviously, he did not understand Ananias’s words to mean that baptism saves.
Acts 10:44–48 clearly reveals the relationship of baptism to salvation. It was only after Cornelius and his friends had received the Holy Spirit (giving evidence that they were saved) that Peter ordered them baptized (10:47). Baptism thus follows salvation and does not cause it. (For further discussion of baptismal regeneration, see MacArthur, Acts 1–12, 73–75).
Ananias’s words in verse 16, when properly understood, are in full agreement with the New Testament teaching that salvation is by faith alone. The phrase wash away your sins must be connected with calling on His name, since connecting it with be baptized leaves the participle epikalesamenos (calling) without an antecedent. Paul’s sins were washed away not by baptism but by calling on the name of the Lord (cf. Rom. 10:13). A literal translation of the verse says, “Arise, get yourself baptized and your sins washed away, having called on His name.” Both imperatives reflect the reality that Paul had already called on the Lord’s name, which is the act that saves. Baptism and the washing away of sins follow.

MacArthur, John: Acts. Chicago : Moody Press, 1994, c1996

Remember…

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Also…

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

I never said baptism was part of Moses’ law…but this shows that receiving the Spirit is by the hearing of faith…

Romans 10 clearly explains this apart from baptism.

Signed…JUSTIFIED!! And then baptized!

Romans 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

This entire line of reasoning is based upon the faulty assumption that salvation is instantaneous, permanent and complete at the time one “comes to faith”. In addition, it makes the assumption that baptism is not an act of faith and thereby not united to faith in Christ. The entirety of Scripture and even the testimony of most “bible christians” refute such notions.
In addition, this concept of "baptism is a required act of obedience " really seems desperate to me. Is there any other meaningless, entirely inconsequential “act of obedience” which God “requires” of us that we could use as an analogy? No, there isnt - and for good reason.
Lastly, Peter said baptism now saves you and all the spin in the world won’t change that. This is no different than all the twisting that goes on with James 2 to explain how God really meant the opposite of what he inspired the authors of Scripture to say. I, for one, think you need to either decide that the bible isnt as clear about its message as you claim, or realize that you are simply “leaning on your own understanding” (cf Prov 3-5)

 

[Church_Militant]

The “fathers” were given more credence than the Word in the case of the Rabbi as well…seems this way in your case…your allegation is fitting more for yourself than I.

Again…nothing but rhetoric and propaganda.

The early church writings are so Catholic that there’s little semblance to modern post reformation n-C theology that you have to try to discredit them.

Any further personal remarks to me you’ll need to send me by PM because your comments have little relevance to this topic anymore.

The following verses indicate that the apostles saw traditional sources as acceptable to instruct believers as to correct doctrine.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
2 Timothy 2:2
1 Corinthians 11:2
1 Thessalonians 2:13
Acts 2:42

If one tells me that they are a Bible only Christian, then I have no choice but to expect them to align themselves with all of the Word of God and not just the parts that fit their modern post reformation theology.

 

[Catholig]

Are you serious people??? Right in the middle of the apologetics forum and there are more people voting for “By trusting in Jesus ALONE” than “By trusting in the Church?”

???
Please say this is a joke,
Catholig

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Scripture says that baptism washes away sins, Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ephesians 5:25-27; Titus 3:5-7; and that baptism is necessary for salvation, John 3:5; Gal. 3:27; 1 Peter 3:20-21.

“And Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit’,” Acts 2:38

“Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name,” Acts 22:16.

“Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of the water with the word, that He might present the church to himself in splendor, without a spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish,” Ephesians 5:25-27

“…He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, which He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by His grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life,” Titus 3:5-7

Scripture makes clear that baptism is necessary for salvation.

“Jesus answered, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.’,” John 3:5

“For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ,” Gal. 3:27

“Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ …” 1 Peter 3:20-21.

Baptism does NOT save.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

This verse doesn’t say that baptism saves. Look at the explanation of the verse. That which is born of flesh is flesh (water represents fleshly birth, the mother’s womb contains water), that which is born of Spirit is spirit (Spiritual birth)

Mr 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. {for: or, unto}

Lu 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

As far as baptism saving you, it is the baptism of repentence that saves, not water baptism. The baptism is an outward showing of what happens when you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior. It is NOT salvation, nor is it part of it. It is a believer’s act of obedience.

Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
(KJV)

Look at this verse. At first glance it appears as though baptism saves. But it says “He that believeth not shall be damned.” He is not damned for not being baptized.

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
(KJV)

The baptism being talked about is a good concience toward God not water baptism. It says “not the putting away of the filth of the flesh” but what? “a good conscience toward God”

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Here are verses regarding Salvation:

Ac 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Where is baptism mentioned here for Salvation?

1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. {words: or, speech}
(KJV)

What did it just say?

Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Where is baptism mentioned here?

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Where is baptism mentioned here?

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

It says it is by grace through faith, not baptism.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(KJV)

It says whosoever believeth in Him. Where is baptism meantioned here?

If baptism were necessary for salvation surely it would have been mentioned in these important passages.

You cannot possess the Holy Ghost unless you are saved right?

Ac 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

They were already saved and possessed the Holy Ghost and they had not been baptized yet.

Ga 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Where is baptism mentioned here?

Mr 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

I believe that some of those verses that you believe are talking about water baptism are actually talking about being baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Ro 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Baptism is not mentioned here.

Joh 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

The Door is Jesus Christ. We enter in by accepting Him.

Re 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

We open the door by receiving Him, what He did on the cross for us to pay for our sins. Baptism is an act of obedience. It is a public profession of faith.

Lu 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

This theif couldn’t be baptized and Jesus Christ told him what? Today thou shalt be with me in paradise. Because He asked Jesus to save him. He received what Jesus did for Him.

Ac 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

What was the requirement for Him to be baptized? He has to believe. Baptism is for believer’s only. Believer’s are already Saved.

1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

If believing means that you know that you have eternal life, where is baptism mentioned here?

It is very clear that baptism is NOT for salvation but an act of obedience. It is an ordinaince just as communion is.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Are you serious people??? Right in the middle of the apologetics forum and there are more people voting for “By trusting in Jesus ALONE” than “By trusting in the Church?”

???
Please say this is a joke,
Catholig

That’s wonderful because, that’s the correct answer.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Does it? I disagree…
Revelation Chapter 3:5: He who conquers shall be clad thus in white garments, and I will not blot his name out of the book of life; I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.

To be blotted out of the book of life…one’s name has to be in there to begin with.

Perhaps they are all in there and blotted out if we don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before we die.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

So Baptism has no merit and is not required to be born again? Why then did Christ Himself command it?!

No one is arguing weather Jesus commanded it or not. We are saying that it’s not part of salvation, it is an open showing of His death burial and resurrection after salavation. You catholics sprikle and pour so you lose the symbolism in true baptism.

Immersion is the correct mode. Head in water (represents His death, burial) head back out of the water (represents His resurrection)

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

This is a foreign, extrabiblical concept to me - I was under the impression that all of the commandments dealt exclusively with our salvation. Could you please list other commandments of Christ (OT or NT) which are “not part of our salvation”?

None of them deal exclusively with our savation except for the one telling us to believe on the Son of God.

Joh 3:36 (NKJV) “He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

I believe on the Son. Do I have eternal life? The bible says I do. Do you believe on the Son?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Church tommorrow. Time to go to church to worship the Lord and learn about Him directly out of the word of God. :extrahappy:

 

[Catholig]

That’s wonderful because, that’s the correct answer.

Frodobaggins - no it’s not. Yes, honor and worship Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and second person of the Trinity - but do it by honoring his Church, which he founded. His bride, who he bore out of his side. Who he instructed his mother to protect. Who he sent the Holy Ghost to Teach. Who he put Peter in charge of. Who he edified with the blood of Martyrs and Saints. Who he told his disciples to preach.

Seriously I double-dog dare you to read the St. Francis de Sales’ The Catholic Controversy. I guarantee that if you read it - even if you don’t convert on the spot - you’ll have a lot to think over, and it’ll make for months of very interesting dialog with your pastor as he tries to refute it for you.

Catholig

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Perhaps they are all in there and blotted out if we don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before we die.

So we are in the book of life the whole life and blotted out right before we die?

This is even more wrong that OSAS. People who do not accept Jesus Christ, perhaps even the worst Satanist who mock him every day and who sacrifice innocent people to their demons are in the book of life - the book that lists names of those who are on their way to eternal life - until they die.

 

[Milliardo]

Frodo, haven’t we talked about this over at PEX already? pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269349 Interesting that that thread was exactly a year ago…

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

No one is arguing weather Jesus commanded it or not. We are saying that it’s not part of salvation, it is an open showing of His death burial and resurrection after salvation. You catholics sprinkle and pour so you lose the symbolism in true baptism.

Immersion is the correct mode. Head in water (represents His death, burial) head back out of the water (represents His resurrection)

Where is that in the Bible? Just show me the verse.

xfrodobagginsx:

Where does it say that in the bible? It doesn’t say “my sheep hear my voice through the church” It says “My sheep hear my voice”

He speaks through His word, a true believer will recognize His voice. It could happen in church or out of church.

Have you read my previous posts post or have you ignored them or missed them? I explain this.

My question is, can you be saved outside of the Church founded by Jesus Christ, who is his body?

Hopefully you’ll say no.

And if you say no then you must know that the Church Jesus founded is not just some abstract thing but the Catholic Church. In this we differ from your understand. Thus you must follow the Church because the Church comes from Christ and outside of it there is no light.

What you regard as Church (baptist church, Lutheran church) are ecclesial communities. They are gathering of people who may be invisibly united with the Catholic Church by their baptism but what they call churches is nothing more than a communities of individuals who reject the true Church.

xfrodobagginsx:

I have to say that they also happen in protestant churches as well. Many missionaries recieving miracles from the Lord, but we don’t seek after signs, or put our faith in them. We put our faith in the Lord alone.

Who said that we put faith in healing miracles???

None of them deal exclusively with our salvation except for the one telling us to believe on the Son of God.

Joh 3:36 (NKJV) “He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

I believe on the Son. Do I have eternal life? The bible says I do. Do you believe on the Son?

Can you please refer to my posts older posts and answer them?
Namely posts #195, #198, #199 and #202…

Church tommorrow. Time to go to church to worship the Lord and learn about Him directly out of the word of God.

I’m going to and I will receive Lord Jesus Christ. He will be physically present in that church!

Now, will you?

 

[Gamera]

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you.

My two year old son cannot do this. God forbid that the good Lord should call him home today, are you telling me that he cannot get into heaven???

In the Catholic view, he would indeed go to heaven. He’s been baptized, which washed away original sin, and he’s too young to be capable of personal sin. But in your “faith alone” view, he’s doomed, right? God allowed no possibility for little children to enter heaven? Only those old enough to make an act of faith can be saved?

 

[jabelltulsa]

Immersion is the correct mode. Head in water (represents His death, burial) head back out of the water (represents His resurrection)

Who developed this Criteria???

(J-Bells Fiancee)

 

[Church_Militant]

Perhaps

they are all in there and blotted out if we don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before we die.I’m sorry Frodo, but what does the word of God say? Look at these scriptures: RE:Book of Life

I don’t think there is any doubt or grounds to be confused on this.

 

[Church_Militant]

Church Militant;2629194:

So Baptism has no merit and is not required to be born again? Why then did Christ Himself command it?!

No one is arguing weather Jesus commanded it or not. We are saying that it’s not part of salvation, it is an open showing of His death burial and resurrection after salavation. You catholics sprikle and pour so you lose the symbolism in true baptism.

Immersion is the correct mode. Head in water (represents His death, burial) head back out of the water (represents His resurrection)This is nothing more than denominational rhetoric that contradicts the very teachings of the Word of God.

Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that one must be immersed. It’s simply not there…not even by implication.

Moreover, the earliest verifiable Christian writings, like the Didache (The teaching of the Twelve Apostles) reads as follows on baptism.

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism.
And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

Frankly we lose nothing, since we clearly teach that baptismal burial in Christ.