'If gays don't like it, they can choose another pasta': Barilla pasta faces global boycott after chairman says brand would never feature a homosexual

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Why does it matter to this thread what my interactions with homosexuals has been? Again how is affirming sinful behavior an act of love? Do you think Barrilla should make advertisements with homosexual “married” couples? How would that advance the faith?
As started earlier…the pasta company can do that…that is their right.

As I said, affirming sin is wrong and this is very insightful of you.

My challenge is love…maybe reread a few posts, I am sure you will understand as you have been confirmed and evidently take your faith seriously so the call of love will be easy for you to grapple with.

Once again, never affirm sin. But faith without love is useless and devoid of substance.
 
WhenI went to The catholic School of Evangelism… we travelled over to the Brownville Outpouring. The minister was vehemently anti-homosexual, even advocated the death penalty.

Outside the homosexual community was protesting

Our Leader, Charlie OsBourne, instructed us to leave…hate should never be mixed with the gospel. We were told to serve coffee and hot chocolate to gays and not to provide our opinions, just love them.

You know, many did attend church later and in time there were many changed lives…Oh, the power of Love… it is a sword as scripture claims.

Changed lives are the result of love…and what is love? God is love.
Who in this thread has espoused hating homosexuals?
 
As started earlier…the pasta company can do that…that is their right.

As I said, affirming sin is wrong and this is very insightful of you.

My challenge is love…maybe reread a few posts, I am sure you will understand as you have been confirmed and evidently take your faith seriously so the call of love will be easy for you to grapple with.

Once again, never affirm sin. But faith without love is useless and devoid of substance.
You didnt answer the question. As a catholic do you think the pasta company should be making ads showing a homosexual “married couple”. Is believing they should not an act of hate?
 
You didnt answer the question. As a catholic do you think the pasta company should be making ads showing a homosexual “married couple”. Is believing they should not an act of hate?
yes, they can handle the advertising as they see fit
 
WhenI went to The catholic School of Evangelism… we travelled over to the Brownville Outpouring. The minister was vehemently anti-homosexual, even advocated the death penalty.

Outside the homosexual community was protesting

Our Leader, Charlie OsBourne, instructed us to leave…hate should never be mixed with the gospel. We were told to serve coffee and hot chocolate to gays and not to provide our opinions, just love them.

You know, many did attend church later and in time there were many changed lives…Oh, the power of Love… it is a sword as scripture claims.

Changed lives are the result of love…and what is love? God is love.
And no one here has advocated the death penalty for “gay” people. The topic of the thread is the “gay” communities calling for a boycott of Barilla pasta because they refuse to promote homosexual lifestyle in their advertising.
 
And no one here has advocated the death penalty for “gay” people. The topic of the thread is the “gay” communities calling for a boycott of Barilla pasta because they refuse to promote homosexual lifestyle in their advertising.
It wasn’t really that as much as his outward taunt of the LGBT community. He didn’t promote gay relationships beforehand and saw no boycott. He comes out and says “boycott me gays!” and sees a boycott. I wonder why :rolleyes:
 
It wasn’t really that as much as his outward taunt of the LGBT community. He didn’t promote gay relationships beforehand and saw no boycott. He comes out and says “boycott me gays!” and sees a boycott. I wonder why :rolleyes:
Taunt? You must be joking. It was the interviewer that asked if they would ever feature a “gay” family in their advertising. Barilla didn’t call a press conference to announce to the world that they refuse to sell pasta to self identified homosexuals.

puh-lease
 
Taunt? You must be joking. It was the interviewer that asked if they would ever feature a “gay” family in their advertising. Barilla didn’t call a press conference to announce to the world that they refuse to sell pasta to self identified homosexuals.

puh-lease
I’m referring specifically to his line about how gays could buy a different brand of pasta if they didn’t like the way he ran his business. Pretty much all of my gay friends took that as “gay people should shop somewhere else,” regardless of how he meant it.
 
Except that what he said was, if you like our products and agree with us then you’ll buy it and if you don’t, you can choose not to.

He didn’t say, we aren’t selling to gays.

It doesn’t matter anyway, to the gay lobby that wants to force businesses to close if they won’t actively champion support for their sins.
 
letus face it… there is little love for Gay people in the Christian community. I am not talking about affirming sin…just a lack of love from us christians
 
sometime ago in the Parish Renew programs that swept parishes, part of this program was to reach out to fallen away Catholics for the pain they had suffered at the hands of catholics and the Church. How progressive that was. It became apparent to me how many had been hurt buy the church or members and a simple reaching out healed so many wounds.

Today, we have the gay and abortion issues so predominant and central to our politicasl involvements and catholic lobbying efforts. Apart from the theology of the right and wrong of such issues, it seems we have forgot to reach out our hands in love.

People do not leave the church because of teaching, dogma, and issues. They leave as they do not feel welcomed, included and loved.

The mormons and protestants so successfully recruit and convert Catholics because of their strong sense of community. .They know to welcome sinners in love before and fellowship prior to expecting great personal change in these individuals as that will come later. They know not to debate them at first but to immerse them in loving fellowship before winning theological debates. When we just begin our evangelism with ebate and argument, we only lose them but when we begin with love, we see change in the hearts and minds of people.

We are so eager to condemn their sins and win some theological debate rather than win their hearts in love knowing Christ has the power to order their lives according to his will.

There is a scripture that says, “Be cunning as a serpent, gentle as a dove.” When we work to evangelize prostitutes, drug addicts, gluttons, the proud, or even gays…does not it seem wise to start with love as the first step in a process…this is simple missiology taught to every Catholic Missionary and yes, we are missionaries as the goal and mission of the church is to spread the good news. As such, we need to love, to be inclusive, to welcome and to be wise. Few converted Christians leave their past immediately…but it is encountering a loving God that we are complelled to change, die to self and proclaim, "It is no longer I who lives but Christ who lives with in me.

When we support legislation to limit the rights of others, whatever rights those are, do we not drive the very people we wish to serve further from the church. When we start with judgement, does this bring them into the loving arms of Mother Church? Of course this does not imply affirming sin.

When we meet an overweight person, do we start our evangelism with the words, "You are a gluttonous sinner? Of course we do not. Maybe this is because 60% of our population is overweight and we know better. So, how is we believe that starting from judging others who are gay, is the best way to evangelize them. Evangelization, although rich in our historical tradition, has fallen out of fashion with Catholics but that is what we are called to be. Even St Paul knew when speaking to the Greeks to begin his sermon with the unknown God, a concept they already believed in. For us, we have love, hospitality and many other forms of charity and inclusion to start with before hammering home to homosexuals our judgements about their sins. We can judge an action as wrong but never are we allowed to judge a person for that is the sould responsibility Christ when he divides the sheep from the goats on judgement day.

When we love others we might be surprized that they actually ask us and solicit our advice concerning their moral state…but to do so they need to trust us. We trust others when they know they love us. Love seems like the best place to start…
 
I’m referring specifically to his line about how gays could buy a different brand of pasta if they didn’t like the way he ran his business. Pretty much all of my gay friends took that as “gay people should shop somewhere else,” regardless of how he meant it.
Again,much the same message those opposed to same sex marriage got from the CEO of Starbucks,who as much as told anyone who didn’t like his support of SS marriage tough …
Take you business elsewhere…I followed his advice:rolleyes:
 
Again,much the same message those opposed to same sex marriage got from the CEO of Starbucks,who as much as told anyone who didn’t like his support of SS marriage tough …
Take you business elsewhere…I followed his advice:rolleyes:
I think I explained that in an earlier post. Do you want me to repeat it?
 
Again,much the same message those opposed to same sex marriage got from the CEO of Starbucks,who as much as told anyone who didn’t like his support of SS marriage tough …
Take you business elsewhere…I followed his advice:rolleyes:
Great! Do you see me insulting you for doing so? 🙂
 
Today, we have the gay and abortion issues so predominant and central to our politicasl involvements and catholic lobbying efforts. Apart from the theology of the right and wrong of such issues, it seems we have forgot to reach out our hands in love.

People do not leave the church because of teaching, dogma, and issues. They leave as they do not feel welcomed, included and loved.

When we support legislation to limit the rights of others, whatever rights those are, do we not drive the very people we wish to serve further from the church. When we start with judgement, does this bring them into the loving arms of Mother Church? Of course this does not imply …
Jesse,I agree with much of what you said as it applies to reaching out to those who feel unworthy or unwelcome for fear of being judged,even if they are suffering this judgement in silence.

In defense of our Church,there are outreach programs and healing retreats to facilitate the return of such individuals.If not for a healing retreat I attended ten years ago,I might very well still be one of those feeling unworthy. I believe this is our Holy Father’s

message,to meet people where they are with liove and compassion.Hopefully this will bring them back home.
Regarding legislation prohibiting SSmartiage,this is our responsibility as Catholic/Christians to stand up for and defend our faith.These are God’s rule’s not ours.To say there is general dislike or unloving feelings towards gays in the Christian community,is presumptuous of you.Not condoning the behavior isn’t the same as not loving the person.
 
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