If you were to move, how important is a red state?

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Isaac14 said:
Lander Wyoming may come close. With the presence of Wyoming Catholic College, it may be a good fit, even if daily mass isn’t in Latin.
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I should have read further before giving the almost same answer…I didn’t know it had a Catholic college!
 
Which means, alas, alas, without the safeguards of a Catholic decent agency
 
mercyalways said:
I believe you just described every Democrat I know - they are unable to be polite, let alone neighborly to anyone with a different world view.
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I think you should associate with some different people. The state I"m in went red for the election, but I’m a very blue part of the state. People around here don’t act like that.
 
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Limoncello4021 said:
Very blue state here. I won’t be moving because I generally really like it here, but if I were younger and deciding I might well go for a red state. It is super hard to be a conservative here: there seem to be none. Or, better put, we are all “in the closet” to one degree or another. Conservative opinions are downright hated in this area. No Trump signs at all during the election, and if you put one out it would be vandalized immediately. I’ve had to bite my tongue a million times at, for example neighborhood gatherings or community events. It can be quite uncomfortable to hold to what many of them vehemently consider “racist, misogynist, hateful” ideas. Oh, and this is also a pretty Catholic area of the country. Go figure.
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Here is a description of where I live. I offer it by no means as a rebuttal but rather as a similar observation of sadly how divided our country has become. I have highlighted some of the points from above and will list below some of the similarities and contrasts of my area, again just to illustrate how alike both sides of the political spectrum can (have?) become.

small very red county, adjacent to large blue city, in a red state
nice place to live (except during campaign season)
overwhelmingly conservative politically
very few Biden signs
liberal viewpoints not popular
usually best to keep my political opinions “in the closet”
often have nearly bit through my tongue
(especially with fellow parishioners lest I be labelled and shunned)
likely to be considered “socialist, pro-abortion, supportive of rioting”
and yes, pretty Catholic area

And for those tempted to chime in that I and my ilk deserve every bit of it because of our political beliefs, or that Limoncello and his ilk do because of theirs, I say SAVE YOUR ENERGY. Better yet, I suggest you expend it in reasonable Christlike reflection and discussion here on CAF, with your neighbors, and whenever the opportunity presents itself. You know what, I think I’ll start trying to take my own advice.
 
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Okay, Massachusetts is not perfect.
mercyalways said:
Also, are you aware of the horrible cancel culture that exists in most of your colleges?
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Most? We have a lot of colleges, and I’m willing to bet that most of them do not have a cancel culture.
 
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Beryllos said:
Okay, Massachusetts is not perfect.
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mercyalways:
Also, are you aware of the horrible cancel culture that exists in most of your colleges?
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Most? We have a lot of colleges, and I’m willing to bet that most of them do not have a cancel culture.
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Well, my husband is an academic, and I am sorry, but it is all too likely that some part of the cancel culture has infected many, if not most, of your colleges:
Liberal Totalitarianism on Campus


also:
University of Massachusetts-Boston Associate Professor of Psychology Ester Shapiro called President Donald Trump a nazi, said white supremacy is “baked” into the constitution, and that “Republican militias with armbands” are trying to suppress voters during an Introduction to Human Rights virtual class meeting, according to a student taking the course.
 
I am not a fan of “cancel culture” but I would point out that 1) its not new, and 2) it happens on both sides of the aisle.
 
I am surprised to hear that conservatives are cancelling liberal professors. Perhaps you could provide the list.
 
Did you ever have the feeling that the World News category has leaked into other categories? Let me get back to Catholic Living.
 
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I live in a solid blue state, but there are plenty of Republicans around. Also, plenty of Independent voters, like myself, who find the two party political system repellent and getting worse every election cycle.

What I would like, rather than a “red” state or a “blue” state, is a state where more Catholics go to Mass regularly and treat their neighbors with kindness and respect.
 
mercyalways said:
I am surprised to hear that conservatives are cancelling liberal professors. Perhaps you could provide the list.
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I am not just talking about colleges, which are admittedly more liberal. I am talking in general. Even on this forum you see it from the conservative side. Karl Rove is not a proper Republican anymore because he says Trump did not win. Generally, conservatives are not welcome in conservative circles and discussions if they don’t toe the current party line. The divisiveness in society has been accompanied by a purity movement on both sides, which is really the source of the “cancel culture”.
 
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What I would like, rather than a “red” state or a “blue” state, is a state where more Catholics go to Mass regularly and treat their neighbors with kindness and respect.
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You are so right. It is certainly what every devout Catholic wants - but won’t get. Harris and Biden have already proven themselves anti Catholic. Harris argued belonging to the Knights of Columbus is enough to shut you out of any government job. The media and academia are already viciously anti Catholic. Soon, as in Canada and the UK, entire classifications of jobs will be shut to Catholics.

Look, every devout Catholic would love, simply love to spend his life going to daily Mass, praying, and helping others. Every devout Catholic would love to ignore politics, because politics is nothing less than trivial pursuits, until politics begins to attack the church.

I certainly don’t blame those poor Democrats who want nothing more than kindness for everyone. I know this must be as difficult for them as it is for all the Republicans. I wish we could get back to a Christian respect for everyone.
 
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Generally, conservatives are not welcome in conservative circles and discussions if they don’t toe the current party line. The divisiveness in society has been accompanied by a purity movement on both sides, which is really the source of the “cancel culture”.
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I don’t know enough about conservative politics to respond, but mayhap you are right.

However, cancel culture does seem embedded in leftism, at least in the French revolution and the 20th century Communism.
 
Sure I grew up in California which is a liberal Haven. Closer to Los Angeles which is known for its liberalists.
I moved to a red state because I found it increasingly hard to be a young conservative women of Color with out people berating you. Also the school systems often include the liberal agenda which I found out in Highschool and an increase support for planned Parenthood. So I often felt out of place but didn’t have the courage to speak out.
I did attend Catholic schools and I found that the schools were increasingly becoming liberal as well and accepting teachings that were contrary to the faith such as IVF.

Secondly Taxes. Don’t get me started California a blue state has 14% income tax while Arizona has around 4%. What irritates me is that the taxes aren’t even being used for good . for example Look at down town LA, “Skid Row” its a mess. You can’t even walk on Hollywood walk of fame without smelling pot or seeing needles everywhere. It’s disgusting and my Aunt walking there got Sexually harassed. Plus our taxes go to Fund the abortion clinics which has always been something I hated.

Thirdly the ridiculous prison reform. Somehow those politicians thought it would be okay to have longer paroles for those who have child trafficked. Really, in California child trafficking and certain types of assault are categorized as non violent which enables parole.
 
“Your colleges?” I would submit that the plague of “cancel culture” is a national disease of college campuses, hardly limited to Massachusetts. In fact, it isn’t even limited to colleges as the Thought Police stand poised to strike back at anyone with any degree of visibility who voices something on social media that’s against the prevailing narrative.
 
Regarding colleges…
Liberal arts are liberal
Medical fields are neutral to slightly right leaning
Law schools are a mixed bag…some liberal some conservative
Business fields tend to be very conservative

Labeling colleges as all one thing or another is a category error. It’s really a mix.
 
mercyalways said:
I believe you just described every Democrat I know - they are unable to be polite, let alone neighborly to anyone with a different world view.
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Wow! Every Democrat? I’m no Democrat, but that seems like quite the generalization. I’ve certainly seen more than a few rude and uncivil Republicans too.
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
Someone with murder or mayhem on their mind, or someone determined to make off with your life’s savings in a strongbox (not the best place to keep it, but just for the sake of argument), to tie you up with cable ties while they ransack your house and harm your loved ones — well, you tell me.
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I live in a low crime area up near the border of New York. It’s beautiful up here – we’re in wooded park land.

Given the ease of installing a light on a pistol, a gun owner can avoid a shooting a family member.

Obviously, it’s not right to shoot someone who’s fleeing.

That being said, an unarmed a man can easily attack and kill a woman with his bare hands. So, you never know what that intruder might be up to.

I don’t own a firearm and I don’t plan to. However, if I were a woman living alone in Wyoming and the nearest law officer was 45 minutes away, I’d want a shotgun. That may sound harsh. I don’t want to kill anyone. But I would be the only person who could protect myself.

My grandma marched an intruder out of her house thanks to her pistol. I’m glad she didn’t have to kill him. But I’m ever happier that her pistol scared him off.
 
Because a red state is going to generally be more conservative, usually with mostly Republican leaders who aren’t going to pass a lot of draconian laws, who support law enforcement and try to protect their citizens, and will basically just leave you alone and not dictate every aspect of your life. Those are the states in which common sense is more common.
 
Aren’t there supposed to be equal employment opportunity laws that make discrimination based on religion illegal? Or are those laws, like so many others, simply being ignored by the likes of Harris and Biden? I suspect the latter.
 
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