Having “an answer” is not always THE answer.You’re very welcome. If it wasn’t for apologetics we would have no answers or explanations of things we may not truly understand. Sorry to say but apologetics is a necessity for useful dialogue. Or don’t you believe that either?
PAX DOMINI
Shalom Aleichem
The fact that Jim Jones broke away from mainstream Protestantism doesn’t give his theological views more credence. Breaking away from the mother church didn’t make Martin Luther’s opinions true. In Ellen White’s case, she was filled with false prophesies and heresies.
He didn’t create the world in seven days. He created it in six days. The only thing He created on the seventh day was the day itself.
No it’s a classic bible teaching and a teaching of Jesus. See Mark 2:27 above.
So, yu are saying that the ten commandments are only for the Jews or just the 4th commandment?
There is no indication of this in the bible.
That’s fine if you want to celebrate this, but the Sabbath commandment is one of God’s eternal laws.Ex.31:16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
It is also a sign that we belong to Jesus and it is Him who sanctifies us.
Jesus rescued us from death at the instant of His death, which was on Friday.
We don’t know on which day He rescued them from Egypt. From my reading of Exodus it appears to be a long process. The quote in Deu.5:15 is showing that it is God that saves us and only God that saves all of us.
Absolutely! “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:” Mark2:27
Genesis 26:5oh yes… abraham issac and jacob, were not commanded to keep the sabbath either. please show me one passage that says that all three were commanded to keep it. i submit, that the commandment to keep the sabbath was not given until it was given to the hebrews by moses. noah also was not commanded to keep it. nor was he given any dietary restrictions. except that he could not eat the blood of the animal…hmmm. sounds kinda like what the apostle said in acts. interesting. who would have figured i could have so much fun in a war zone. God bless you all! you all are going to make my deployment go so much faster. before you know it, i will be having my discussions with you from hawaii again! thx. love you folks. Peace
Gen.4: 6And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
This is probably one of the most egregious wrestings of scripture that I have seen on this forum by Catholics to date and I have seen some beauts. Here is Heb.4 1-10 in its entirety. You will notice that it never even implies that the day has been changed. Quite the contrary it affirms the seventh day Sabbath of the old tetament. Even the phrase that you plucked completely out of context states that the Sabbath remains
Fair enough. Joseph Bates. whom E.G. White writes saying our dear friend Joseph Bates. a fine christian and a mason. Joseph Bates was very influential in E.G. Whites views of the sabbath. also if it were not for him, i seriously doubt the whites would have begun keeping the sabbath. it was after the great dissapointment, that he brought her his study and views of the sabbath, and shortly thereafter, they began keeping it. funny too, how her vision of the sabbath, cooincided with his writings. much is written on this man on the web. if you want, im sure there are books written too. if we cannot trust the web. apparently E.G. White had no problem with him being a mason. if we can go by some of the letters she wrote. just google Joseph bates. you will find independent info, as well as pro and con. it is a historical fact tho, that william miller, and one of the Chief influences over the Whites, Joseph bates, were both 32nd degree masons. Peace
and he did! you are so correct! he left his homeland and went where God told him to go. he went so far as to attempt to sacrifice issac. but the command to KEEP THE SABBATH, had not been given. your arguments are getting thinner, and thinner. you cannot show one passage prior to the giving of the law to the israelites, that it was commanded to keep the sabbath. not one. keep trying though. im enjoying this. Peace
sorry to dissapoint, i only have a high school edumacation…
im no apologist. i only play one on t.v. lol! perhaps i have missed the question tho, that you are getting silence on. are you asking for a timeline, when the Church started to meet on the Lords Day instead of the Sabbath? will try to find you an answer for this. and im not saying that the Adventist have not answered my questions, im honestly just asking a new set of questions, that yall seem to have trouble answering. im actually finding it amusing. i always appreciate your responses. one thing though. if i seem to be a little short, its because im on a public computer, in our mwr. it stinks. i can get called away in the blink of an eye…that sounds to much like the rapture… anyhow. if my answers get screwed up. thats why. Peace 
say what! really! we just had a poster not too long ago on this thread say yall could trace your lineage back to the time of Jesus and the apostles, if im not mistaken. and you say there were no writers prior to the SDA Churches, what?! founding did you say? thank you for you honesty. i for one really appreciate it. Peace to you and yours hello my friend. in all fairness, it is not only the Adventist that teach the no jewelry doctrine. conservative mennonites, amish, as well as other various fundamentalist branches teach the same. it would probably be interesting to ask why they let their women cut their hair since paul spoke against it… after all, “we only follow the bible” right? hope the rings were not too expensive!
Peace most of the differences are in the practice of the liturgy. in theology, there is very very very little difference. it has more to do with cultural factors, than anything else. also God is not a God of disorder. if the Holy Spirit would have been behind the reformation, you would have 1 reformation church. not 30000. maybe you would have 3 different branches of liberal conservative and orthodox, like the Jewish people, and we have the same 3 in Catholocism. but you wouldnt have 20000 different denominations. im being generous, i feel the 30000 number is too high. Peace
will check you fine folks out later. Peace Ellen White has nothing to do with controlling the gates of hell…she believed, with all her heart, in Jesus, as BOTH Savior and Lord - just as do many Catholics, which she acknowledged in her writings…
Well; everytime some well-meaning Roman Catholic says how many denominations that Protestants “really” have, the number keeps changing with no evidence to support it, and without providing lists of the latest 100 even. I believe that kind of numbering would be called “embellishment.”most of the differences are in the practice of the liturgy. in theology, there is very very very little difference. it has more to do with cultural factors, than anything else. also God is not a God of disorder. if the Holy Spirit would have been behind the reformation, you would have 1 reformation church. not 30000. maybe you would have 3 different branches of liberal conservative and orthodox, like the Jewish people, and we have the same 3 in Catholocism. but you wouldnt have 20000 different denominations. im being generous, i feel the 30000 number is too high. Peace
).actually my friend, i am somewhat in agreement with you, about the numbers game. i sometimes throw it out there tongue and cheek. but, the differences in the Catholic rites are more cultural and local. just as the practice in mexico, will be somewhat different than in say… russia or the u.s. different local holidays and the like. but theologically, no different. i can go to any country, any continent in the world. and i know what the readings are for the day, what the mass is about. and i can participate reguardless of language. it is truly the Church prophecied in malichi 1:11. from the rising of the sun unto its going down. the Lords name is truly great among the gentiles. and a clean oblation is made to His name. just as was promised. Peace to you and yours.Well; everytime some well-meaning Roman Catholic says how many denominations that Protestants “really” have, the number keeps changing with no evidence to support it, and without providing lists of the latest 100 even. I believe that kind of numbering would be called “embellishment.”
now, lets see what happens when we start counting all the Roman Catholic “rites.” Oh! Did I say denominations? (I am sorry…
