Is America too divided?

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It is perfectly reasonable, and I think you know that, you just don’t want to admit it because you’re so staunch in your position.
Believe it or not, despite your condescending insistence that I’m lying to myself, I genuinely do think your proposed solution is unreasonable. It would prevent a multitude of talented people for whom owning, carrying, and operating a firearm is impossible/impractical/unsafe from becoming teachers, and potentially cause an even greater decrease in the quality of our educational system.
 
It doesn t come off as sanctimonious to me… At some point,we entrust ourselves and our children to Jesus ,Our Lady…
It is like we cannot cover everything and everywhere. We do our best…
And I mean really…
 
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It would prevent a multitude of talented people for whom owning, carrying, and operating a firearm is impossible/impractical/unsafe from becoming teachers, and potentially cause an even greater decrease in the quality of our educational system.
No it would mean the most qualified. I think you’re just moving the goal post because of your dislike of the right.
 
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I agree. Primarily, we need to listen to one another’s concerns, even if we don’t agree with the solutions they propose and work to compromise on issues in order to be fair and just to everyone. Also, we need to stop assuming that everyone who we disagree with hates us, America, minorities, or puppies.
 
I am so sorry here, but my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness trumps [no pun] some lunatics right to own a gun that he learned how to use out on a farm from his uncle.
But the right to own a gun is just as important as the right to life, liberty, and happiness. In fact, owning a gun is contained in liberty. Without the right to bear arms, that is one part of liberty taken away.
 
And those advocating that teachers be mandated to supply their own firearms lost all respect from me. A teacher became a teacher to teach, a nurse to nurse, a fireman to fight fires, but a police officer has earned the right to bear semi-assault style weapons to protect those of us that because of the flood of guns due to fool hardy legislation brings us lunatics like we see today.
And teachers also have guardianship over our children. When we entrust our children to them, part of that is about keeping them safe.
 
That is out the question…teachers care and a lot for the students,but say,are teachers to give vaccines?
Does your amendment speak about a right to bear arms or a duty to enforce bearing them?
 
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The ability to carry a gun has nothing to do with the function of a teacher.

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Yes it does. With the skills they acquire, they can better protect our children. Heck, maybe they could even teach the kids a few things about self defense. Also hey, perhaps it would suggest they have better income and suggest they have had a better education.
 
That is out the question…teachers care and a lot for the students,but say,are teachers to give vaccines?
Does your amendment speak about a right to bear arms or a duty to enforce bearing them?
That isn’t necessary, not at the moment. Whatever becomes necessary, we should enact it.
 
It’s not their job to protect your child, just like it’s not their job to feed or clothe your child.
Really? So it’s their job just to do nothing? So if a bully is picking on my kid, they should just stand around? Part of being a teacher is protecting children when you have them in your care.
 
That isn’t necessary, not at the moment. Whatever becomes necessary, we should enact it.
Food and water are necessary, this idea of more guns in the hands of untrained or unwilling persons to act in the heat of a deadly moment is nothing less than insanity.
 
Really? So it’s their job just to do nothing? So if a bully is picking on my kid, they should just stand around? Part of being a teacher is protecting children when you have them in your care.
Their job is to respond by notifying people whose job it actually is to provide for certain needs. If your child is injured, the teacher’s job is to respond by getting them to the nurse: they are not actually required to provide medical care themselves.
 
Food and water are necessary, this idea of more guns in the hands of untrained or unwilling persons to act in the heat of a deadly moment is nothing less than insanity.
The keyword you said was untrained. Have you not been reading this conversation?
 
I’m saying that if they have the money, it may suggest that they have been able to spend for a better education.
 
Yes, exactly, that is protecting them. What you’re advocating for is in direct contrast to Christian moral teaching. For teachers to just do nothing? To just let someone be a door mat? Really? Matthew 25:35-40
I’m not saying teachers should be doormats. I’m saying that we shouldn’t require them to go up against mass shooters.
 
The keyword you said was untrained. Have you not been reading this conversation?
untrained and unwilling. You’re talking about enacting it as law. What’s next? the veterinarian for oral surgery? Teachers, are not by right (unless perhaps having been in the military or former police) trained to enforce law with the use of guns in a military type of atmosphere. Clearer now?
 
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