According to Saint Thomas Aquinas, there are Four Sections to Hell: Gehenna, Purgatory, and Limbo of the Children, and Limbo of the Fathers. In this video, Taylor Marshall, PhD, explains the descent of Christ into Hell (as we say in the Apostles’ Creed) and explains these four “sections” through the biblical eyes of Thomas Aquinas.So are you saying that the “price of sin” is NOT death?
Are you also saying that the “price of sin” is NOT hell?
Matthew – who was an eyewitness Apostle – tells us in his Gospel that at the Last Supper, Jesus said, “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” *Not *“for all” !What I have said, many, many times is that All will, ultimately, be with God in God’s Kingdom, Jesus Is the Saviour of ALL.
Since the Sacrament of Reconciliation does not cleanse us from our human tendency/desire to sin again, how do you propose anyone can get into heaven if he/she still had a human tendency/desire to sin at the time of death, since “nothing impure will ever enter it”?So are you saying that the “price of sin” is NOT death?
Are you also saying that the “price of sin” is NOT hell?
But Jesus says different than you. So why should your opinion trounce the declaration of Jesus?What I have said, many, many times is that All will, ultimately, be with God in God’s Kingdom, Jesus Is the Saviour of ALL.
You stated, “Since the Sacrament of Reconciliation does not cleanse us from our human tendency/desire to sin again,”Matthew – who was an eyewitness Apostle – tells us in his Gospel that at the Last Supper, Jesus said, “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” *Not *“for all” !
Since the Sacrament of Reconciliation does not cleanse us from our human tendency/desire to sin again, how do you propose anyone can get into heaven if he/she still had a human tendency/desire to sin at the time of death, since “nothing impure will ever enter it”?
Jesus said many things.But Jesus says different than you. So why should your opinion trounce the declaration of Jesus?
Not at all. From this link:Seems to me if one reads what you wrote and believes it, than no one is going to heaven, is that what you meant to say.
As far as, "‘Likewise, Sodom, Gomorrah and the surrounding towns, indulged in fornication and practiced unnatural vice, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.’ " Jude 7‘Likewise, Sodom, Gomorrah and the surrounding towns, indulged in fornication and practiced unnatural vice, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.’
Jude 7
‘For the Lord Almighty will take revenge on them, in the day of judgment he will visit them. For he will give fire, and worms into their flesh, that they may burn, and may feel for ever.’
Judith 16:20 -21
‘Whose fan is in his hand, and he will purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his barn; but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.’
Luke 3:17
'. . . in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God these will pay the penalty of eternal ruin, separated from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power. . . ’
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
'Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.’
Matthew 25:41-46
‘The road to hell is open for the wicked. Once they enter into it, they will never come up again. They will be without glory or bliss and will be filled with misery and everlasting reproach.’
Christ, to St. Bridget of Sweden, ‘The Revelations’
‘In the darkness of Hell Your Mercy shines, for the damned do not receive the pains they deserve; with Your Mercy You temper Justice.’
St. Catherine of Siena
What do you think “If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” refers to?What do you think “eternal fire” is?
The Church does. And Ralph Martin upacks that in a way that you cannot misunderstand.Jesus said many things.
There are quite a few things in the bible that seem contradictory, are they contradictory or just might they be complementary?
One of the things that Jesus said was, “With man it is impossible but with God ALL things are possible” and this was concerning “Salvation”, do you know what Jesus meant when He said this?
I believe that God has the last word, so to speak, on this and I will continue to hope for what some seem to think is beyond hope.The Church does. And Ralph Martin upacks that in a way that you cannot misunderstand.
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I bought and read the book, but you can skim the reviews at Amazon to learn that no, all will not be saved. :nope:
True. And here is what He said:I believe that God has the last word, so to speak, on this and I will continue to hope for what some seem to think is beyond hope.
Matthew 25: 34 : “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.”True. And here is what He said:
“Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Out of my sight, you condemned into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.’”
— Matthew 25:41
For more on the Church’s rejection of universal salvation:
catholicworldreport.com/Item/2733/on_universal_salvation_the_logic.aspx
So now we’re going to receive eternal happiness in Heaven AND eternal suffering in hell?!?!Matthew 25: 34 : “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.”
and Matthew 25: 40: “And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.”
Matthew 25: 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
and Matthew 25: 45 “He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.”
To conclude with Matthew 25: 46 "And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Have you ever given any thought to just what is written in Matthew 25?
As opposed to just taking one or two verses out of it and posting them?
Has it ever occurred to you that most, if not all, of us fit into both categories?
Who knows, maybe the “Sword of God’s Tongue” which is sharper than any two-edged sword will do a “number” on ALL of us, a “number” that many seem to think that God is incapable of doing.
Who knows, maybe rather than some getting “God’s Justice” and others getting “God’s Mercy”, ALL of us will receive BOTH.
Hellish Purgatory.Matthew 25: 34 : “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.”
and Matthew 25: 40: “And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.”
Matthew 25: 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
and Matthew 25: 45 “He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.”
To conclude with Matthew 25: 46 "And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Have you ever given any thought to just what is written in Matthew 25?
As opposed to just taking one or two verses out of it and posting them?
Has it ever occurred to you that most, if not all, of us fit into both categories?
Who knows, maybe the “Sword of God’s Tongue” which is sharper than any two-edged sword will do a “number” on ALL of us, a “number” that many seem to think that God is incapable of doing.
Who knows, maybe rather than some getting “God’s Justice” and others getting “God’s Mercy”, ALL of us will receive BOTH.
Yes.Have you ever given any thought to just what is written in Matthew 25?
They share the same heating system.Hellish Purgatory.
Isn’t there something about “new heavens and a new earth”?So now we’re going to receive eternal happiness in Heaven AND eternal suffering in hell?!?!
Your personal theology is really bizarre. No, God isn’t going to cut us in two with His sword and put part of our body in Heaven and part in hell.
The New Heaven and the New Earth is about Jesus and Mary, the New Adam and the New Eve.Isn’t there something about “new heavens and a new earth”?
Maybe “They share the same heating system” because in God’s Wisdom they are the same.They share the same heating system.